Re: fedup f20->f21 kde broken deps

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Michael Schwendt wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 08:07:10 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> 
>> fedup gave me the following warnings:
>> 
>>    kde-runtime-libs-4.14.3-2.fc20.x86_64 requires exiv2-
>> libs-0.23-5.fc20.x86_64,
>> OpenEXR-libs-1.7.1-6.fc20.x86_64, libgcrypt-1.5.3-2.fc20.x86_64,
>> ilmbase-1.0.3-7.fc20.x86_64, libwebp-0.3.1-3.fc20.x86_64
> 
> Well, I have yet to hear good things about fedup, so take the following
> with a grain of salt.
> 
> # yum list kde-runtime-libs
> Loaded plugins: langpacks
> Available Packages
> kde-runtime-libs.i686                4.14.3-2.fc21              
> updates-testing
> kde-runtime-libs.x86_64              4.14.3-2.fc21              
> updates-testing
> 
> This only shows that a "higher" kde-runtime-libs package is available for
> F21, albeit only in the updates-testing repo. Does fedup upgrade to
> updates-testing or just F21 Beta release +/- updates repo?
> 
> In case it does not, this is typical upgrade path breakage that has
> plagued Fedora for a long time already. You would strictly need to
> upgrade _to_ F21 updates-testing to avoid this.
> 
> Upgrading from an up-to-date F(n-1) to F(n) only works well, if every
> package in F(n) is "higher" than F(n-1). That assumption breaks easily, if
> somebody has installed latest updates for F(n-1) [possibly even including
> test updates] but upgrades to something "older", such as a release without
> updates and/or updates-testing.
> 
> 
>>     armadillo-4.500.0-1.fc20.x86_64 requires atlas-3.8.4-13.fc20.x86_64
> 
> Same here, a newer armadillo is available for F21, whereas without
> updates-testing it is _older_:
> 
> # yum list armadillo atlas
> Loaded plugins: langpacks
> Available Packages
> armadillo.i686                   4.550.0-1.fc21                 
> updates-testing
> armadillo.x86_64                 4.550.0-1.fc21                 
> updates-testing
> atlas.i686                       3.10.1-16.fc21                  fedora
> atlas.x86_64                     3.10.1-16.fc21                  fedora
> 
> # yum list armadillo atlas --disablerepo=updates-testing
> Loaded plugins: langpacks
> Available Packages
> armadillo.i686                        4.450.0-1.fc21                     
> fedora
> armadillo.x86_64                      4.450.0-1.fc21                     
> fedora
> atlas.i686                            3.10.1-16.fc21                     
> fedora
> atlas.x86_64                          3.10.1-16.fc21                     
> fedora
> 
>>     kde-workspace-4.11.14-2.fc20.x86_64 requires gpsd-libs-3.9-4.fc20.x86_64
>>     kwin-4.11.14-2.fc20.x86_64 requires libxcb-1.9.1-3.fc20.x86_64
>> Continue with the upgrade at your own risk.
> 
> Same here:
> 
> # yum list kde-workspace kwin
> Loaded plugins: langpacks
> Available Packages
> kde-workspace.x86_64               4.11.14-2.fc21               
> updates-testing
> kwin.x86_64                        4.11.14-2.fc21               
> updates-testing
> 
> # yum list kde-workspace kwin --disablerepo=updates-testing
> Loaded plugins: langpacks
> Available Packages
> kde-workspace.x86_64                    4.11.14-1.fc21                   
> fedora

So basically, update f20->f21 is just broken, if you want kde.  I would guess 
that if I proceed with the update, that kde will not work.  That's a showstopper 
for me.

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