On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 08:45 -0500, Gene Czarcinski wrote: > Before discussion any criteria for whatever release, perhaps there > should be a discussion on how we would like things to work and what we > really do not care about. Also, I believe that the appropriate place > for this discussion is the anaconda-devel list and/or > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [or, perhaps both]. We already did that, extensively. What I'm trying to do is propose a fairly minimum criterion that would be a *baseline* everyone can agree on, so we can at least get something added. As I wrote, I think cmurf is planning to re-propose his more extensive idea. I sent the proposal to a-d-l as well, but test@ is the 'official' place for criterion discussions. > Also, is this just a grub2 issue or does it also apply to extlinux? My proposal does not. > Also, I would like to see the merits of directly booting other > installations (linux/initrd) versus configfile chaining. Release criteria are about functionality, not about implementation. That's an entirely separate discussion, which *would* make sense on a-d-l. > Another point that would clarify things for me concerns > linux16/initrd16. Other than it is the "latest and greatest, just what > features/capabilities does linux/initrd (32 bit) offer that is not > available in linux16/initrd16? Again irrelevant to a criterion discussion. > Once we know what goal we are aimed at and what we are ignoring, then we > can establish some bounds and release criteria. I guess I don't quite see it that way. "What goal we're aimed at" is exactly what a criterion *is*: a functional requirement. What you're talking about above is not about 'goals', it's about technical/implementation details. These can have some impact on criteria - it's obviously absurd to write a requirement that is not technically achievable - but in general I don't see that we need to get into the nitty gritty of grub's alternative loader implementations in order to decide whether we want to set a release criterion for basic stock configuration multi-boot. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test