After rebooting from the crash I ran a YUM update. After updating a few thousand files YUM started slowing down and eventually wedged. Apparently some limit had been reached on the 32 GB system. We all know not to stop YUM in the middle of an operation, but there was no alternative. I then did a fresh install of the current Fedora 21. Two important packages had serious problems. I could not get the firewall to enable needed services on the port facing the internet. I could not get httpd to run. It failed, complaining about not being able to identify its hostname and/or domainname. I started seeing this a few days ago but on omen.com it is a show stopper. After a while I gave up and did a net install of good old Heisenbug. My various scripts for setting up Fedora to my tastes seem to have worked perfectly. Even /bin/lp works properly! A very smooth install indeed. I do miss the new gnome-terminal that rejoins borken lines when resized. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX caf@xxxxxxxx www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software" 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 503-614-0430 -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test