I forget, but isn't there a parameter to turn off debugging on kernels if so desired? Maint F21, not rawhide (cause I know about the rawhide debug kernels). Yes the one I have (that came installed on F21) does have it on. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test