On Fri, 2014-06-20 at 14:32 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > if, however, i simply unplug the external monitor from HDMI, no > problem, and i can plug in the monitor after booting. oh, and as > before, once i'm running under this new (but clearly broken) kernel, > when i go to shut down, massive kernel panic and stack trace. > > i can do more testing tomorrow, but this has now been an issue for > the last three rawhide kernel releases. is no one else seeing > something like this? more later ... Issues like this are very hardware specific; it'd be very unusual for there to be a bug which affected *any* system with an HDMI display, because the code for dealing with HDMI displays attached to NVIDIA adapters is entirely different from the code for dealing with HDMI displays attached to Intel adapters or AMD adapters. Even within a single driver, the code for different cards can differ quite drastically. Your issue is almost certainly at *least* specific to NVIDIA (it's very unlikely anyone with a different brand of video adapter would see it). It's possible that it's also specific to the NVIDIA hardware generation your card comes from, or even to your specific card family or model. (For example, the first few 3.16 kernels would not initialize graphics correctly *at all* on my particular hardware...but you wouldn't have seen that bug, as it was specific at least to the 'nv50' hardware generation, and may possibly only have actually triggered on my particular card). So, anyway, what we'd need you to do is get logs and file a bug against xorg-x11-drv-nouveau (see the explanation to poma as to why that's the correct component). I don't *think* you're seeing the same bug as Dan Mossor, as he hit his bug as far back as 3.13. Getting the logs should be pretty simple. Boot the system, and edit the kernel command line for one of the 3.16 kernels affected by the bug to include the parameter 'drm.debug=15'. Boot it, and wait for the bug to kick in. Now boot back to a working kernel, and do 'journalctl -b-1 > /tmp/crash.log'. Now the file /tmp/crash.log should have a full log from the affected boot, including all the verbose debugging messages you get by passing 'drm.debug=15', and you can attach that to your bug report. Let us know if you need any more help in filing the report. You could in fact also/instead file the bug upstream at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/ - I don't think the nouveau in Fedora's 3.16 kernels diverges at all from upstream, so the bug is very likely an upstream one. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test