On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 22:35 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 04/25/2014 09:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > we at least need to get the requisite new test > > cases and matrix templates (or whatever) drawn up, and decide on whose > > responsibility all the testing we ultimately decide to do will be. > > Just keep those test matrix and test cases along with their own release > criteria within the relevant WG's product wiki space and once those are > ready we remove the overlapping bits from the "general" release criteria > and test matrix if any ( which most likely will just boil down to > anything in relation the workstation WG ) > > And there is nothing to decide on whom will be doing all that testing > > It's their product, they designed it, they maintain it, they test it, > they release it. > > Yes it's really that simple... Well, no it isn't. "They" are part of the Fedora project. So are "we", and we're allegedly the bit that's responsible for quality assurance. Frankly, I don't think your approach of just sticking our heads in the sand and pretending .next isn't happening is in the best interests of Fedora as a whole. It makes sense for the Fedora project's QA team to be involved in testing of Fedora products, however the details of that work out. But it's a discussion we should frame properly and involve all the correct parties in. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test