After aggressively defending the Anaconda team much of the weekend from people on users@ suggesting the installer was somewhere between useless crap and willfully designed to piss users off, I read this revelation: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079604#c6 If only it were Anaconda's design goal to intentionally piss users off, because that would be an upgrade from David Cantrell's philosophy of "giving people just enough rope to hang themselves." That sucks. It's not what I signed up for, and it's incongruent with my motivations for testing the installer. Now I'd like those hundreds of hours back. As this relates to Fedora QA, I think QA should suspend mandatory test cases, test matrix entries, and release criteria related to anything in Manual Partitioning. That is, any test case related to Manual Partitioning would be an optional test. And if it hasn't been done, or if it isn't passing, even if there's a crash, the release is not blocked. Fedora QA can retask freed up resources to other packages/projects that could use QA's help. I'd just let Manual Partitioning be a free for all between the Anaconda team and its volunteer user base to decide both features and quality level, and leave Fedora QA completely out of it. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test