On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 14:47 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > What is in common for Server and Workstation? They have to boot, and > startup to a working prompt or gdm. That's all the installer needs to > do to be successful. Goose. Gander. Good. > I think we shoot ourselves in both feet by creating derivatives of the > installer. Maybe it's realistic to have each product decide what, if > anything, is hidden. But we are only talking about two products. The > Cloud product will have images, installer isn't applicable. > > > Even then, if we were able to trim the installation options to one or > > two options, those options aren't going to be the same across WGs. > > Heavens to Betsy we might have to have FESCo host an arm wrestle! I'd pay for that if we add mud. > > Server folks might want XFS, to be in parity with RHEL 7. I don't know > why that would bother Workstation folks, XFS is just fine for that use > case too. I'd say Workstation should do what Server does, unless all > outstanding Btrfs concerns and questions are fully and satisfactorily > addressed by the flip date. > > For Manual/custom path it needs some more consideration but I'd say no > Server or Workstation derivatives. Rename it Advanced Partitioning (or > Advanced Storage Configuration since it really isn't about > partitioning as much as oldui). And then we see how realistic and > helpful it is to hide certain features. The challenge there it's not > any one particular tick box that makes it hard, it's when used in > combination that things get complicated. Example, for rootfs I'd say > do not expose raid 4 or 6. Maybe even don't expose raid 5 at this > default reveal level for rootfs, only for /home. That sort of thing. I think just chewing the cud about this on test@ is kind of pointless at this point; we're all aware of the issues and the general goal of 'make it simpler'. I think we need to be talking to other teams about it. See the message I just cross-posted to a bunch of lists with the topic "[Base] Fedora Base Design Working Group (2014-02-21) meeting minutes and logs". -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test