On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 14:35 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/18/2013 09:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hi folks! can people please test and up-karma > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreoffice-4.1.4.2-1.fc20 ? LO > > is currently newer in F19 stable than F20 stable, and it's causing some > > weird dep issues when people try to yum distro-sync to F20. > > We are seeing these issues ever since Fedora is around. Why hasn't > Fedora's release process been fixed to prevent such incidents happen? Fixed how? The update was submitted to 19 and 20 simultaneously, with identical karma thresholds. The update for 19 got karma faster and went stable first. It's fairly common for F(N-1) packages to get newer than F(N) while N is in pre-release freeze, and I don't see an easy viable way to 'fix' that without freezing N-1 as well, which stops people on N-1 getting updates. The only 'solution' I can see is something more drastic like adjusting our release tagging or version evaluation such that F(N) packages are always considered newer than F(N-1) packages, but aside from the inevitable disruptions involved in introducing such a change, it's not 100% clear it's even what we want - it's gotten suggested a few times, and IIRC there are usually some dissenting arguments. There's an ongoing conversation about whether fedup should effectively do --distro-sync , which would resolve some of this kind of issue, but probably not all. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
