On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 02:42:16 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 19:44 +0000, Beartooth wrote: >> I have several machines running F18, which I would like to change >> to F20 by some sort of upgrade, rather than a fresh install. Can anyone >> yet guess whether upgrading from a DVD, or using fedup, or yum, or some >> other way is most likely to succeed with the least trouble? >> >> Among other possibilities, is an upgrade via DVD from F18 to F20 >> Beta, followed by yum updates at regular short intervals, any more or >> less promising that fedup? (I've had very mixed experience with that.) [....] > You got various replies, but to clear up one point, you can't really > upgrade 'via DVD' from F18 to anything, at least not in the way I think > you're thinking about. Yes, I was still taking it for granted that I could run Anaconda from a DVD for any Fedora release, and get a choice of whether to upgrade or install afresh. And I thank you heartily for the correction! These changes often take some time to get to the likes of me, and I'd've fallen into a real mare's nest if I'd tried it. > The only 'officially recommended' upgrade method from F18 onwards is > fedup. The installer's upgrade mode does not exist any more. fedup is > essentially just a fairly thin wrapper around a 'yum update' which is > performed in a special systemd target. You can feed it packages from a > repository or from a DVD ISO, but it basically does the same thing > either way (you'll have more, and newer, packages available if you use > the repo approach). Yes, thanks again. After your post and Ed Greshko's, I did the first machine in question using his "fedup --net 20"; it worked fine. In a senior moment beyond most, I just did it again on the same machine (a Thinkpad T42). This time it got a list of non-extant groups like the ones that've been posted for yum. (I haven't checked whether they're identical to the list I got from yum directly, or to the one posted.) [snipperoo] > I don't know if there's any hard evidence as to whether it's better to > do an 'incremental upgrade' (18->19->20) or a direct one (18->20), to be > honest. I'm sure you can find anecdotal evidence for either. FWIW, I'd > usually go with the direct approach. Hang on! Here goes! -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test