Here are the minutes from the meeting. The next meeting will probably be on Wednesday 2013-11-20, maybe on Monday after regular QA meeting. We will announce it in advance. ========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F20-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by kparal at 17:00:54 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-11-14/f20-blocker-review.2013-11-14-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (kparal, 17:00:54) * Introduction (kparal, 17:04:12) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (kparal, 17:04:12) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (kparal, 17:04:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (kparal, 17:04:12) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (kparal, 17:04:14) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (kparal, 17:04:16) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (kparal, 17:04:18) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria (kparal, 17:04:20) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria (kparal, 17:04:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria (kparal, 17:04:24) * 7 Proposed Blockers (kparal, 17:04:37) * 11 Accepted Blockers (kparal, 17:04:37) * 4 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (kparal, 17:04:37) * 0 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (kparal, 17:04:37) * Proposed Blockers (kparal, 17:05:03) * (1029790) dracut cannot handle encrypted partitions with a key file on the root file system (kparal, 17:05:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1029790 (kparal, 17:05:12) * Proposed Blocker, dracut, NEW (kparal, 17:05:12) * AGREED: 1029790 - RejectedBlocker - This does not affect a large enough user base to guarantee a blocker. We still would like to see this fixed before release. If the fix is ready during freeze period, please propose for a freeze exception. (kparal, 17:14:25) * (1025908) unable to unlock LUKS encrypted device from Live-Desktop (kparal, 17:14:36) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1025908 (kparal, 17:14:36) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-disk-utility, NEW (kparal, 17:14:36) * AGREED: 1025908 - RejectedBlocker - Currently this seems to be very hard to hit, and therefore rejected as a blocker. Please repropose if you find a reliable reproducer. (kparal, 17:19:22) * (1007121) [abrt] system-config-services-0.101.10-2.fc20: connection.py:651:call_blocking:DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "list_services" with signature "" on interface "org.fedoraproject.Config.Services.ServiceHerder" doesn't exist (kparal, 17:19:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1007121 (kparal, 17:19:31) * Proposed Blocker, system-config-services, NEW (kparal, 17:19:31) * AGREED: 1007121 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates criterion "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test". This needs to get fixed or removed from KDE spin. (kparal, 17:25:48) * (1026860) Instantiated service is not run, it stays in inactive state (and systemd debug log does not state why) (kparal, 17:26:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026860 (kparal, 17:26:02) * Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (kparal, 17:26:02) * AGREED: 1026860 - Punt - We will wait until developers provided more information about cause and impact of this bug, so that we can better decide whether this should block the release. (kparal, 17:35:15) * (1028207) non US keyboard layouts not working at console (kparal, 17:35:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1028207 (kparal, 17:35:20) * Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (kparal, 17:35:20) * LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_sign (kparal, 17:44:54) * AGREED: 1028207 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates criterion "A system installed with a release-blocking desktop must boot to a log in screen where it is possible to log in to a working desktop using a user account created during installation or a 'first boot' utility" when it comes to booting from an encrypted drive with one of the affected keymaps. (kparal, 17:45:08) * (1006386) Boot takes 27 seconds longer with /var/log/journal than without (kparal, 17:45:21) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006386 (kparal, 17:45:21) * Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (kparal, 17:45:21) * AGREED: 1006386 - Punt - We would like to see more information from systemd developers before deciding a blocker bug question. Also, we would like to get confirmation that this affects F20, because this report only mentions Rawhide and the linked (fixed) reports go to F19. (kparal, 17:57:35) * (1029594) Regression from f17 - Xorg crashes (kparal, 17:57:41) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1029594 (kparal, 17:57:41) * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-ati, NEW (kparal, 17:57:42) * AGREED: 1029594 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem to be a general issue, but affect only the reporter. If this turns out to be an issue affecting large portion of our user base, please re-propose. Also try to run clean F20 environment from LiveCD and report back. (kparal, 18:02:18) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions (kparal, 18:03:01) * (972265) When using a kickstart that specifies nothing about repo, 'closest mirror' doesn't seem to be usable (kparal, 18:03:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972265 (kparal, 18:03:06) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (kparal, 18:03:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972266 is the other bug i found in this use case (adamw, 18:10:45) * AGREED: 972265 - AcceptedFreezeException - Kickstarts are expected to be used as partial configuration. It should be possible to configure manually the remaining pieces. Unless this has changed, this is an inconvenient bug and we would accept a patch after freeze if self-contained and safe. (kparal, 18:22:36) * (972266) Installation Destination spoke behaves strangely when installing from a minimal (packages only) kickstart (kparal, 18:22:44) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972266 (kparal, 18:22:44) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (kparal, 18:22:44) * AGREED: 972266 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is obviously unintended and unexpected behaviour, and while it can be worked around, the workaround is quite hard to discover and to do, and looks really bad. We would accept a patch after freeze if self-contained and safe. (kparal, 18:25:53) * (1023609) 'biosdevname=0' not passed into installed system (kparal, 18:26:05) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023609 (kparal, 18:26:05) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, POST (kparal, 18:26:05) * AGREED: 1023609 - AcceptedFreezeException - This setting should be consistent in the installer environment and in the installed system. We would accept a patch after freeze if self-contained and safe. (kparal, 18:28:21) * (1022810) error detecting raid1 thin pool layout (kparal, 18:28:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1022810 (kparal, 18:28:23) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-blivet, NEW (kparal, 18:28:23) * AGREED: 1022810 - RejectedFreezeException - This is fine if it is fixed before Final freeze. But during the freeze we feel that this is a risky patch that might cause different side effects. If developers feel that this should get included during freeze and it's safe, please re-propose. (kparal, 18:35:38) * Open Floor (kparal, 18:38:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria#Kickstart_delivery says "The installer must be able to use all available kickstart delivery methods." and "The intent of available is that the installer developers get to define the set of supported kickstart methods.", but since the anaconda devs are always telling people to use partial ks, it could be argued that they themselves define partial ks (robatino, 18:42:49) Meeting ended at 18:46:19 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * kparal (198) * adamw (105) * Viking-Ice (87) * roshi (65) * robatino (10) * zodbot (4) * tflink (1) * satellit (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
