Re: Upstream packages v.s. Fedora packages

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On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 10:13 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 10/11/13 10:03, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 06:20 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> >> I see....  Does that then imply the problem is, or has been,
> >> introduced by the packaging of LibreOffice for Fedora?
> > Have you filed a bug the maintainers can look at? It isn't easy to
> > diagnose the issue without information to go on, at least a stack trace.
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces
> 
> 
> As I mentioned in the first message a bugzilla exists.....
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=890474
> 
> They have not requested a stack trace.  On 2012-12-31 it seemed the
> issue resided with LibreOffice.  But, as you can see going through the
> bugzilla I constantly said it wasn't fixed in the Fedora packages. 
> Since it was reported against F18, the bugzilla was closed.
> 
> Of course I reopened it.  But, I am doubtful that it will get any "real" attention.
> 

Upstream/Downstream isn't really at issue here. The binary packages
available for download from upstream are built against kde3 (rhel-5
baseline builds). There are two implementations of the kde stuff, a kde3
one and a kde4 one. Our downstream packages are built against KDE4, so
its almost certainly not a packaging bug, but an underlying problem that
only affects the KDE4 backend.

I was initially led astray on thinking that this was fixed because I had
fixed a very similar sounding bug to this in the generic shared code of
all the backends.

You are probably correct in that it won't get much of my attention
because there are thousands of things that need attention and my focus
is necessarily primarily on the GTK backends and GNOME3 integration.

In the past I only built the gtk backends and not the kde ones precisely
because I knew I wouldn't have the resources to maintain both of them.
The only long real solution is that someone with the technical know how
and interest take an interest in improving the kde4 support upstream and
avoid it drifting into irrelevance.

FWIW (to try and tempt someone, not necessarily you, into having a look
at kde4 integration) building upstream libreoffice with kde4 support is
super easy with...

  git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core
  ./autogen.sh --enable-kde4
  make

and the majority of kde4 specific stuff is in vcl/unx/kde4

C.

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