On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 04:38 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > That statement in conjunction with behavior I've observed seems to indicate > hard dependencies have been created for what on other distros would be > suggests. e.g., 'yum install konsole' results in 1 package plus 190 dependent > packages to be installed, among them: That kind of vague approach won't get you anywhere when it comes to dependencies. The web of deps between a repository of over 10,000 packages is, naturally, insanely complex, and if you just say "I think this is too many dependencies!", no-one's very likely to do anything about it, unless they happen to be annoyed by the same dep chain and actually do the work to figure out what's going on. A better approach is to go in and figure out exactly what the dep chain is, and see if you can identify the questionable links in it. Or just establish to your satisfaction that, even though it seems weird, it's valid, and there are good reasons for each set of deps. Usually the maintainers are not idiots, and don't just throw dependencies around for no good reason. If you do find something, post to devel@ or file a bug. There is often a trade-off to deal with when deciding whether to make something a dependency - where, say, you expect that half the users will have a bad experience if it's not installed, but the other half will complain about bloat if it is, what do you do? Soft deps could help with this, but the Fedora package management folks have been opposed to them for a long time. They have some valid reasons; personally I'm pro-soft deps, but it doesn't look like it'll happen soon. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin DOT net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
