On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:23:04 -0400 Bob Lightfoot <boblfoot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/19/2013 05:26 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > >> This conversation was started on Monday in the QA meeting but I > >> forgot to send anything out to the list. We're a bit short on > >> time, so a quick vote would be appreciated > >> > >> Tim > >> > >> > >> As currently written, the Fedora 20 alpha release requirements > >> [1] state that optical media must boot: > >> > >> Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot > >> when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if > >> applicable) and when written to a USB stick with at least one of > >> the officially supported methods. > >> > >> [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria#Release-blocking_images_must_boot > >> > >> > >> > >> > The question was whether it was important to have this requirement at > >> alpha when the isos aren't required to be the correct size until > >> beta. As it currently stands, the DVD isos can't be burned to > >> single-sided DVDs. > >> > >> I propose that we modify that we do two things: > >> > >> 1) modify the alpha criterion so that it only requires optical > >> media to work if the isos are correctly sized > >> > >> 2) require booting from optical media at beta when the isos are > >> required to be properly sized > >> > >> Proposed change to the "supported media types" section of the > >> release blocking media criterion [1] : > >> > >> Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot > >> when written to optical media of an appropriate size (if > >> applicable and the images are correctly sized) and when written > >> to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported > >> methods. Release-blocking ARM disk images must boot when written > >> to a medium bootable by the platform under test, according to the > >> instructions for the platform under test. > >> > >> [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria#Release-blocking_images_must_boot > >> > >> > >> > >> > Proposed change to the beta release blocking image criterion [2]: > >> > >> Difference from Alpha: This criterion differs from the similar > >> Alpha criterion in that it requires optical media to boot and > >> that all supported methods of writing a Fedora USB stick to work, > >> not just any single one. > >> > >> [2]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria#Release-blocking_images_must_boot > > > >> > > I agree. > > > > However, there's one corner case to consider. Due to some licensing > > issues we still can't test UEFI in VMs. That means we can't really > > test UEFI boot and installation of Live/DVD/netinst other than > > burning it (or doing a USB conversion, but then we don't test the > > vanilla ISO). If Live/netinst burning is broken for some reason > > (other than being oversize, which is not very likely for these two > > images), we might have troubles verifying that UEFI works. OTOH > > this is a very unlikely situation to occur. I'm mentioning it for > > completeness. > > > The rewrite sounds good to me. Just one possible improvement. I work > almost exclusively with VM for testing so iso size doesn't matter. > Should it be an alpha requirement that the isos we're talking about > boot and install in the VM environment which has no care for size? > Does this gain us any sanity checking? That's an good point. In practice, we seem to be doing a lot if not most of the testing for alpha in VMs and it might be worth looking into moving the "must work in a VM" criterion to alpha for f21. I'd rather not mess with the criteria any more than we have to this far into alpha, though. VMs are working at the moment and I think we can get away with not formalizing the desire for them to work at alpha for f20. Tim > Bob > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSOtCHAAoJEKqgpLIhfz3XFRMH/30aiKVVMOMtQHPujSUNvzaZ > L+ukAflPlXguMe0jFIUNt9J6fBIkKpTA2QZeupO0yFQF42kaFCALAGdmZYvK4Iiv > iGmY0UffTJqlxYVOsJtFtJ1iUEuRwvPlyByLMyycX9F+rlXYnuSooZpqz6Fi2Zuf > CLCB83rcLPxOgH1cYKxYWg8mcISvG01HXjwn5DZJcr5rto48SFLeiVdmPtn/SNtQ > fHfLW51i3qENli48lXjIPhj0trTw1u3pfQK0+UCijSB/kFU3EFi/yul3U9WbfqNG > 3ul+FbtTKwxk80eRJtHiepPCdIrF1XCBW80iw+4RWiPTCCMEWkNpY1SVFh2c4tE= > =L/mM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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