Re: systemd depends so heavily on a files it can not reboot

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On 07/08/2013 12:03 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote:
I've hit very unpleasant trouble - my ext4 rootfs gots crazy and I had a thousands of "multiply claimed blocks" files. This revealed to me one systemd weakness - it depends so heavily on a files on a rootfs, it can not, in case they are damaged, do its basic function - allow to login and control and shutdown processes.

This really seems like a problem to me, because in case, there is something wrong with the (remote) system, the least thing you want is to not be able to login because systemd is missing some (non esential) files. OK you may say - you can not login remotely - but you can not login even localy and also an attempt to reboot the machine with years working "ctrl-alt-del" is not working because e.g. @ctrl-alt-del.target is missing.


So you are complaining not being able to connect to a ( remote ) host with filesystem corruption and the base/cores OS files one of those that are corrupted.

This really looked like a bug to me
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=981877
but it is a feature.

That systemd requires a working rootfs like so many other things in the OS sounds neither a bug nor a feature but what is to be expect.


So to avoid the worst - the need to interrupt the power and risk the damage to all other mounted file systems, I'd like to open a discussion on enabling the sysrq in Fedora by default to work around this feature: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982200

No need to open a discussion. SysRq is disable for are a reason and what you are propose allows anyone that sits at the keyboard to kill all process,reboot without syncing or authorization and all because you got a corrupted filesystem.

I'm pretty sure Bill will close this bug as a wontfix in a jiffy, if not anyone from the security team will.

JBG
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