Hey, folks. So I drafted up the proposed 'onboarding' changes. For now I didn't include the idea of adding people to the 'qa' FAS group: it seemed easier to get this done first, then we can do that after if we want to. Here are the proposed changes that just drop the PT and BZ 'joining' stuff, and add a self-introduction process for QA: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_QA_Join https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_Bugzappers_Joining https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_Proven_tester compare to the versions at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Join https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Joining https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Proven_tester I should've thought to copy the pages unchanged to my draft space, *then* edited them, so you'd have handy diffs - sorry. Here are the basic changes: 1. Add a 'Introduce yourself and join the team!' section to QA/Join, at the top. Change "so pick one or more of the activities and jump right in" to read "so introduce yourself, pick one or more of the activities and jump right in" in the very top paragraph, with 'introduce yourself' being a link to the self-introduction section. The 'Here's an example mail' text is obviously planned to be a link - if we approve all these changes, I'll find a mail we can use as an example, or we can just write a dummy one. 2. Move the "Triaging and managing bugs" section to the bottom of QA/Join, and rewrite it somewhat to reflect that BugZappers is dormant and we'd like to see triage come back as a QA activity in future. 3. Add an admon/warning box to the top of Bugzappers/Joining, saying the group is dormant and applications aren't being accepted, and directing people to QA/Join or join.fp.org to contribute. Hide the 'How to Sign Up' section (it's just commented out in the page source). 4. Edit the admon box at the top of Proven_tester to say that applications are not currently being accepted. Hide the 'Joining the proven testers' section (again, it's just commented out in the page source). Add a little admon box in 'Mentoring process' section to say that mentoring isn't required at present. I cleaned up a couple of other minor details that I noticed as I went along, but they were just general bringing-things-up-to-date stuff (mainly the list of tools and the contact person in the 'Developing tools' section of QA/Join). I think these changes should be all we need. Any queries/comments/suggestions/worries? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test