On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:06 PM, John Reiser <jreiser@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It's a matter of cost, which varies. My out-of-pocket expense > of burning "4x" DVD+RW (@ $0.24) has been about the same as using USB stick (@ $12.) > I've had USB sticks wear out (bit errors, and not from too many writes) > after some years, just as I have had DVD+RW fail after fewer than 100 rewrites. > Sometimes wall-clock latency matters a lot to me; then top-quality "16x" DVD+R > (@ $0.25) is best. Besides USB being on all computers that run Fedora, and computers with optical drives shrinking; even 16x DVD is slower than molasses on a Minnesota Tuesday in the dead of winter. If time is money, and the choice is a matter of cost, then DVD is expensive. > I have no problems producing USB sticks that are UEFI bootable [and they do work], > because I read the documentation, which includes "man livecd-iso-to-disk", > where the "--efi" parameter is explained. I'm not talking about you, or me. The context from the outset was the Installation Guide, and regular users. The Installation Guide does not mention man livecd-iso-to-disk, or any of its switches. And it would be *inappropriate*, to say the least, if the Installation Guide did refer the user to a man page. > I do get persistent user data when I use the appropriate incantation. Incantation is not in the Installation Guide. > I get a re-format when I ask for it via --format. That incantation is not in the Installation Guide. > >>> The only hassles are when I switch between i386 and x86_64, or between >>> UEFI and non-UEFI systems, both of which work better for me with a re-format. > > <<snip>> >> So I'm still left wondering why dd is last. > > It's a wiki. Put your $0.02 there, too. OK thanks for scraping the bottom of the barrel. boot.iso vs Fedora-18-x86_64-netinst.iso, presumably you prefer Fedora-18-x86_64-netinst.iso? efiboot.img doesn't actually create bootable media, so presumably you prefer Fedora-18-x86_64-netinst.iso for that too? And "Not available" for both UEFI install and minimal USB media, presumably you agree is incorrect, and should have Fedora-18-x86_64-DVD.iso and Fedora-18-x86_64-netinst.iso respectively. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
