----- Original Message ----- > On 01/03/2013 03:26 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > That's more - do not ship blindly, try to figure out as much as > > possible > > but within the time frame we have. > > > You may not have been long enough sitting in the release chair to > realize that the time frame that was used to initially determined the > first release cycle of the Fedora has since long been out grown. > > Heck I cant even remember any release that has been manage to be > shipped > on time. > > Can you provide me with proper argument why it is so urgent to > release > now? Why the rush? What benefit it's supposed to bring to our end > user > instead of delivering them better complete working product? The only argument - we look like fools. I admit this is my first release, it's a fun one :) but - for F18, we were planning six months release cycle (+some time for blocking issues, it's non sense to release with blockers). But F18 was very different - but changing the release cycle/planning should happen before. Also we are still able to deliver very good product, it's always about compromise - even if we would just scratch all "time based release cycle" - you can aim on perfection, but we're not Hurd :) It's always about scope, about resources - currently we do not have resources to fix this in timely manner - if you will volunteer, I'll reconsider. And yeah, it makes me sad we do not have any stronger i18n teams around that could handle all these issues - but it's again about resources. Even my position is called manager, I'm not one - I hope - and still have some common sense (even engineers are sometimes that perfectionists;-). But we are far away from the topics. Let's figure out, how we can make the release better (or best when we consider our resources) - there are fixable bugs. Jaroslav > JBG > -- > test mailing list > test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
