F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #7 Minutes

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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-7
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This was an unscheduled meeting, so there was no announcement - we just
needed to get through some of these and enough people were around to
do a meeting.

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-21/f18final-blocker-review-7.2012-12-21-18.33.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-21/f18final-blocker-review-7.2012-12-21-18.33.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-21/f18final-blocker-review-7.2012-12-21-18.33.log.html


Meeting summary
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* Roll Call  (tflink, 18:33:08)

* Introduction  (tflink, 18:37:56)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 18:38:03)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 18:38:11)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 18:38:11)
  * The bugs currently proposed as blocker or NTH are available at:
    (tflink, 18:38:56)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    18:38:56)
  * The bugs currently queued for discussion are listed at:  (tflink,
    18:39:39)
  * LINK:
    http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/blocker_bugs.html
    (tflink, 18:39:39)
  * LINK:
    http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/nth_bugs.html
    (tflink, 18:39:42)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    18:39:46)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 18:39:46)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 18:39:46)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 18:39:46)
  * At the moment, the total number of blocker/nth bugs is:  (tflink,
    18:40:03)
  * 14 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 18:40:10)
  * 13 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 18:40:10)
  * 12 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 18:40:10)
  * 27 Accepted NTH  (tflink, 18:40:10)
  * Queued for discussion today are:  (tflink, 18:40:25)
  * 8 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 18:42:57)
  * 10 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 18:42:57)

* (889101) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute
  'removeMember'  (tflink, 18:43:56)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889101   (tflink,
    18:43:59)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:44:01)
  * AGREED: 889101 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criterion: "The installer must be able to create and install
    to any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a
    default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS
    RAID, or combination of the above"  (tflink, 18:49:13)

* (873468) F18 Beta TC7: sometimes when booting netinst, hub comes up
  showing 'Nothing selected' for Installation Source and Software
  Selection  (tflink, 18:49:18)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873468   (tflink,
    18:49:21)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:49:24)
  * AGREED: 873468 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't happen
    all the time and seems to be limited to slower than expected dhcp
    with ipv6, not enough to justify blocking release over. However, it
    can't be fixed with an update and a tested fix would be considered
    past freeze. Should be at least documented as commonbugs if not
    fixed before release  (tflink, 18:53:42)

* (889330) crash when reclaiming space from disk containing member of
  incomplete md raid0  (tflink, 18:53:52)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889330   (tflink,
    18:53:55)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:53:57)
  * AGREED: 889330 - AcceptedBlocker - Violation of the following F18
    beta release criterion: "The installer's custom partitioning mode
    must be capable of the following: Creating, destroying and assigning
    mount points to partitions of any specified size using most
    commonly-used filesystem types ..."  (tflink, 18:57:26)

* (886314) MDRaidError: md_node_from_name failed: [Errno 2] No such file
  or directory: '/dev/md/root'  (tflink, 18:57:31)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886314   (tflink,
    18:57:34)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 18:57:37)
  * AGREED: 886314 - RejectedBlocker - It sounds like this issue is not
    reproducable on more recent versions and therefore rejected as a
    blocker for F18 final. Please re-propose if a reproducing case is
    discovered.  (tflink, 19:05:47)

* (887539) FormatDestroyError: error wiping old signatures from
  /dev/sdb2: 1  (tflink, 19:05:56)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887539   (tflink,
    19:06:00)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 19:06:02)
  * AGREED: 887539 - RejectedBlocker RejectedNTH - While nasty, this
    seems like too much of a corner case to block the release of F18. It
    also seems too much of a corner case to take as NTH for F18 -
    workaround should be documented (use different hostnames, wipe disks
    before install)  (tflink, 19:18:26)

* (860022) AttributeError: preconf  (tflink, 19:18:31)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860022   (tflink,
    19:18:34)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 19:18:36)
  * LINK:
    http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/18/final/buglist
    (jreznik, 19:26:59)
  * AGREED: 860022 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem to be common
    enough to justify blocking the release of F18. It is already
    accepted as NTH and a tested fix would be considered past freeze.
    (tflink, 19:29:45)

* (859867) Keyboard not set in minimal install  (tflink, 19:30:37)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859867   (tflink,
    19:30:38)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 19:30:38)
  * the original report appears to be fixed and somewhat confused with
    other unrelated keymap issues. The bug will be closed but can be
    reopened if the original issue still exists  (tflink, 19:38:15)

* (889044) need to disable updates-testing for final  (tflink, 19:40:59)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889044   (tflink,
    19:40:59)
  * AGREED: 889044 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criterion: "A fedora-release package containing the correct
    names, information and repository configuration for a final Fedora
    release (as opposed to a pre-release) must be present on ISO media
    while the appropriately versioned generic-release package must be
    available in the online release repository"  (tflink, 19:51:20)

* (881624) After Update using fedup default system keyboard changes to
  US  (tflink, 19:51:41)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881624   (tflink,
    19:51:44)
  * Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW  (tflink, 19:51:46)
  * AGREED: 881624 - Waiting for testing to confirm suspicions about
    this bug. If it turns out that the keymap is not correctly set after
    upgrade, this would be a blocker. If the systemd update fixes the
    issue to the point where passwords work with a non en-US keymap, it
    will be rejected as a blocker  (tflink, 20:15:50)

* (889109) missing dependencies for imsettings  (tflink, 20:16:01)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889109   (tflink,
    20:16:02)
  * Proposed Blocker, imsettings, ON_QA  (tflink, 20:16:02)
  * AGREED: 889109 - RejectedBlocker - This is a dep issue which was
    contained in updates-testing, has already been fixed and wouldn't
    affect the release of F18.  (tflink, 20:18:12)

* (881670) Provide fedup hook to add x-systemd.device-timeout=0 to mount
  options for encrypted file systems that need a passphrase from the
  user  (tflink, 20:18:17)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881670   (tflink,
    20:18:20)
  * Proposed Blocker, systemd, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 20:18:23)
  * AGREED: 881670 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't seem
    severe enough to justify blocking the release of F18 but a tested
    fix would be considered after freeze.  (tflink, 20:24:07)

* (889562) Console keymap set to "us" if you install with a keymap not
  provided by systemd-localed  (tflink, 20:24:16)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889562   (tflink,
    20:24:19)
  * Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW  (tflink, 20:24:22)
  * AGREED: 889562 - AcceptedBlocker AcceptedNTH - We're missing some
    data here but from what we do know, this seems to affect enough
    locales to justify blocking release of F18 final. If it turns out to
    be less severe than it currently appears, it would be rejected as a
    blocker for F18 final  (tflink, 20:53:26)

* (882212) localectl set-x11-keymap: variant settings does not work
  (tflink, 20:53:46)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882212   (tflink,
    20:53:49)
  * Proposed Blocker, systemd, ON_QA  (tflink, 20:53:51)
  * AGREED: 882212 - We don't understand this nearly enough to make a
    call on whether this should block release - it is already accepted
    as NTH and might be fixed. Will revisit if it continues to be an
    issue  (tflink, 21:09:58)

* (889352) [i18n] translated string not displayed in Welcome dialog:
  "Set keyboard to default layout for selected language."  (tflink,
  21:12:43)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889352   (tflink,
    21:12:46)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 21:12:49)
  * AGREED: 889352 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criterion: "All critical path actions on release-blocking
    desktop environments should correctly display all sufficiently
    complete translations available for use"  (tflink, 21:14:47)

* (889585) should not offer to change boot disk from within custom
  storage spoke  (tflink, 21:14:52)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889585   (tflink,
    21:14:55)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST  (tflink, 21:14:58)
  * AGREED: 889585 - AcceptedNTH - Functionality to select the boot disk
    should work - since there is no code to do so in the custom
    partition spoke and the option exists elsewhere, removing it seems
    like a good option. A tested fix would be accepted past freeze.
    (tflink, 21:24:11)

* (888030) [i18n] some package set descriptions not translated  (tflink,
  21:24:20)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888030   (tflink,
    21:24:20)
  * Proposed Blocker, comps, NEW  (tflink, 21:24:20)
  * AGREED: 888030 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't seem
    severe enough to block release but a tested fix would be considered
    past freeze. Since comps changes go through without packages, this
    bug can be closed.  (tflink, 21:27:53)

* (873103) Chinese input does not work after installation  (tflink,
  21:36:50)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873103   (tflink,
    21:36:51)
  * Proposed NTH, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 21:36:51)
  * AGREED: 873103 - AcceptedNTH - Not a release blocking bug since it
    only affects one language but it can't be fixed with an update and
    there are lots of users who use the Chinese locales.  (tflink,
    21:39:12)

* (889366) "Don\'t install the latest available software updates.
  Install the default versions provided by the install source above."
  checkbox does nothing, media installs don\'t default to installing
  updates  (tflink, 21:39:16)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889366   (tflink,
    21:39:20)
  * Proposed NTH, anaconda, POST  (tflink, 21:39:23)
  * AGREED: 889366 - AcceptedNTH - This doesn't violate any F18 release
    criteria but features should work if they are displayed as
    available.  (tflink, 21:41:28)

* (889570) Add help / instruction text for custom spoke  (tflink,
  21:41:40)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889570   (tflink,
    21:41:41)
  * Proposed NTH, anaconda, POST  (tflink, 21:41:41)
  * AGREED: 889570 - AcceptedNTH - This doesn't violate any F18 release
    criteria but useful help messages for custom partitioning would
    hopefully help reduce confusion when doing custom layouts.  (tflink,
    21:44:10)

* (872851) [abrt] rhythmbox-2.98-4.fc18: Process /usr/bin/rhythmbox was
  killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)  (tflink, 21:44:14)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872851   (tflink,
    21:44:17)
  * Proposed NTH, pygobject3, ON_QA  (tflink, 21:44:20)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690514   (adamw,
    21:49:02)
  * LINK: http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=231935
    (adamw, 21:49:11)
  * LINK:
    https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-20814/pygobject3-3.4.2-6.fc18
    (nirik, 21:49:39)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656312   (nirik,
    21:50:36)
  * LINK:
    http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/pygobject3.git/commit/?h=f18&id=14e44ae5618044ff20fc90d449a507384c30a7c1
    (nirik, 21:55:02)
  * AGREED: 872851 - RejectedNTH - While this bug would affect live
    images, the problematic plugin isn't enabled by default and the
    needed change is in pygobject which seems a little too risky to be
    changing so late.  (tflink, 21:59:47)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 22:03:23)
  * No date set for the next blocker review meeting, will more than
    likely be after 2013-01-01  (tflink, 22:05:07)

Meeting ended at 22:05:27 UTC.




Action Items
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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* nirik (124)
* jreznik (50)
* bcl (32)
* buggbot (27)
* dlehman (14)
* zodbot (11)
* jreznik_n9 (10)
* nanonyme (7)
* Martix_N9 (5)
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