2012-12-10 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting: Blocker Review Minutes

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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-3
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The review meeting today spawned out of the QA meeting earlier today
instead of doing our usual mini-review, so there was no separate
announcement.

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-10/f18final-blocker-review-3.2012-12-10-17.13.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-10/f18final-blocker-review-3.2012-12-10-17.13.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-10/f18final-blocker-review-3.2012-12-10-17.13.log.html


Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (tflink, 17:13:22)

* Introduction  (tflink, 17:16:12)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 17:16:18)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 17:16:23)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 17:16:23)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 17:16:29)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    17:16:29)
  * note that due to the number of currently proposed blockers, the list
    is currently being filtered for bugs which are ready for discussion
    (tflink, 17:16:57)
  * LINK:
    http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/sortedBlockers.html
    (tflink, 17:17:23)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    17:17:35)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:17:35)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:17:35)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:17:35)
  * the current full list of blocker/nth bugs is at:  (tflink, 17:18:04)
  * 28 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 17:18:10)
  * 14 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 17:18:10)
  * 26 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 17:18:10)
  * 3 Accepted NTH  (tflink, 17:18:10)
  * the list of bugs ready for discussion is at:  (tflink, 17:18:23)
  * 16 Proposed Blockers deemed ready for discussion  (tflink, 17:18:36)

* (885378) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name'
  (tflink, 17:19:23)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885378   (tflink,
    17:19:26)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 17:19:28)
  * AGREED: 885378 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criterion for reuse of encrypted LVM layouts: "The installer
    must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout
    using any file system offered in a default installer configuration,
    LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above"
    (tflink, 17:28:50)

* (885124) Notifications stays after clicking on 'x' button  (tflink,
  17:29:02)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885124   (tflink,
    17:29:02)
  * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW  (tflink, 17:29:02)
  * AGREED: 885124 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this is a
    polish issue with the default interface, there are workarounds and
    it does not seem to be enough to block release over. Accepted as NTH
    for F18 final and a tested fix would be considered past freeze.
    (tflink, 17:40:11)

* (866887) the default keyboard layout isn't comfortable with the
  selected language  (tflink, 17:40:20)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866887   (tflink,
    17:40:24)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST  (tflink, 17:40:26)
  * it sounds like we are missing some info on this bug, will re-visit
    when more information is available  (tflink, 17:45:07)

* (885641) partitioning: Continue says I don't have enough space, Done
  says I do  (tflink, 17:45:44)
  * ACTION: kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary
    on wednesday. also ping jreznik  (kparal, 17:45:47)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885641   (tflink,
    17:45:47)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 17:45:50)
  * LINK: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Error_Msg-Disk_too_small.png
    also  (satellit_, 18:08:15)
  * AGREED: 885641 - AcceptedNTH - While this is a bad way for the
    installer to fail, it's not clear whether or not it's actually a
    blocker. Accepted as NTH, blocker status will be revisited when more
    info is available. A tested fix would be considered past freeze.
    (tflink, 18:10:55)

* (885090) Inconsistent locations of font files on UEFI systems
  (tflink, 18:11:06)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885090   (tflink,
    18:11:06)
  * Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW  (tflink, 18:11:06)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632 is one of
    them  (tflink, 18:12:19)
  * AGREED: 885090 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This isn't serious
    enough by itself to warrent blocker status for F18 final but it
    would be nice to have correct fonts for release. A tested fix would
    be considered after freeze.  (tflink, 18:29:28)

* (859632) gfxterm hangs when editing boot entries with large font
  (tflink, 18:29:34)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632   (tflink,
    18:29:37)
  * Proposed Blocker, grub2, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:29:40)
  * AGREED: 859632 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Even though this is
    an actual hang in grub, it is too much of a corner case to block
    release for. However, a tested fix would be considered after freeze.
    (tflink, 18:56:58)

* (880271) Wrong keyboard layout in initramdisk  (tflink, 18:57:15)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=880271   (tflink,
    18:57:15)
  * Proposed Blocker, dracut, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:57:16)
  * AGREED: 880271 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
    following F18 final release criterion for non-US keymaps: "For each
    one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to
    successfully complete an upgrade from a fully updated installation
    of the previous stable Fedora release with that package set
    installed, using all officially recommended upgrade mechanisms. The
    upgraded system must meet all release criteria"  (tflink, 19:03:33)

* (869584) ibus menu in kde panel does not work, disappears immediately
  (tflink, 19:03:39)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869584   (tflink,
    19:03:42)
  * Proposed Blocker, ibus, MODIFIED  (tflink, 19:03:45)
  * AGREED: 869584 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
    following F18 final release criterion for asian language users of
    KDE: "ll elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration
    in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in common
    use"  (tflink, 19:13:36)

* (885133) no notification when unmounting external HDDs and data are
  still not synced  (tflink, 19:13:47)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885133   (tflink,
    19:13:50)
  * Proposed Blocker, gvfs, NEW  (tflink, 19:13:52)
  * AGREED: 885133 - AcceptedBlocker - Accepted due to conditional
    violation of the following F18 final release criteria for external
    hard drives: "All known bugs that can cause corruption of user data
    must be fixed or documented at Common F18 bugs"  (tflink, 19:21:13)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885147   (tflink,
    19:21:35)
  * Proposed Blocker, system-config-users, NEW  (tflink, 19:21:38)
  * AGREED: 885133 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this is a
    technical violation of "All elements of the default panel (or
    equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must
    function correctly in common use", it could be fixed with an update,
    isn't likely to affect livecds and can be worked around by editing
    the user instead of the group.  (tflink, 19:29:18)

* (885279) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute
  'startswith'  (tflink, 19:29:28)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885279   (tflink,
    19:29:31)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 19:29:34)
  * AGREED: 885279 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criterion for adding a swap partition in custom
    partitioning: "The installer must be able to create and install to
    any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a
    default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS
    RAID, or combination of the above"  (tflink, 19:32:52)

* (884896) DiskException: no partition specified  (tflink, 19:32:57)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884896   (tflink,
    19:33:00)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 19:33:02)
  * AGREED: 884896 - We need more information on exactly what the
    trigger for this bug is before deciding on blocker status, will
    re-visit when there is more info  (tflink, 19:38:31)

* (882722) 'KeyError: None' while trying to install F18 beta  (tflink,
  19:38:46)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882722   (tflink,
    19:38:47)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 19:38:47)
  * AGREED: 882722 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
    following F18 final release criterion for reuse of encrypted VGs:
    "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable
    partition layout using any file system offered in a default
    installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or
    combination of the above"  (tflink, 19:46:18)

* (884660) Anaconda fails to load on machines with multiple NICs
  (tflink, 19:46:25)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884660   (tflink,
    19:46:25)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED  (tflink, 19:46:25)
  * AGREED: 884660 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
    following F18 alpha release criterion for systems with multiple
    connected nics: "The installer must boot and run on all primary
    architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on
    those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso
    install media when written to an optical disc and when written to a
    USB stick ..."  (tflink, 19:51:16)

* (885240) GRUB is installed despite Do not install bootloader being
  selected  (tflink, 19:51:43)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885240   (tflink,
    19:51:46)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 19:51:49)
  * AGREED: 885240 - AcceptedBlocker - The original report violates the
    following F18 final release criterion : "The installer must be able
    to install into free space alongside an existing clean
    single-partition Windows installation and either install a
    bootloader which can boot into the Windows installation, or leave
    the Windows bootloader untouched and working". The other issues are
    not affected by this and should be separated into new bugs.
    (tflink, 19:59:36)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 19:59:59)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885853   (kparal,
    20:00:38)
  * The next blocker review meeting is scheduled for 2012-12-12 @ 17:00
    UTC  (tflink, 20:05:45)

Meeting ended at 20:06:11 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary on
  wednesday. also ping jreznik




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jreznik
  * kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary on
    wednesday. also ping jreznik
* kparal
  * kparal to ask Vratislav about 866887 and present a summary on
    wednesday. also ping jreznik
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (278)
* adamw (217)
* kparal (139)
* jreznik (58)
* Viking-Ice (57)
* buggbot (18)
* jskladan (7)
* mkrizek (5)
* zodbot (4)
* satellit_ (3)
* satellit (1)
* rbergeron (1)




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