----- Original Message ----- > On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 15:30 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > So, this: > > <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2012-December/001004.html> > > > > says the final change deadline is 2012-12-11 and it agrees with > > <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Schedule?rd=Releases/18.> > > > > The Test Days schedule > > <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_18_test_days> > > however, says it's a week later, December 18th. > > The Test Day schedule is usually going to be incorrect if there's any > disagreement. It's updated by anyone involved with test days who > remembers to do it, while the announcement is obviously Official, as > is > the wiki schedule and the one in jreznik's fp space (SO MANY > SCHEDULES) F18 Test Days schedules were hit very hard by all that changes we did to release it :( In the beginning we were not ready to really begin Test Days, later - we added a lot of Test Days For F19 what I'd like to do is to ask teams to check the schedule (the big one) and we really should simplify it a lot (and get it to sync with current release process). As FESCo wants to schedule F19 after submission deadline - we have some time to do it. > > The Network Test Week is in between, including testing of Gigantic > > Dangerous > > Change of Firewalld. > > > > How is this supposed to work? > > I don't think FESCo considered the test day schedule at all in > deciding > to move up the freeze date. To be fair, those of us QA folks who were > at > the FESCo meeting completely forgot it might be an issue and didn't > mention it when asked about QA concerns about moving the freeze :( > Sorry > about that. I'd even say - schedule such important test day so short time before previously planned change deadline was a mistake. But I wasn't aware of it, other bullet to my "check items", sorry I missed this. As I said, F18 is hard one and you can see a lot of people saying - we do not need schedule, I'm now more inclined to - we really need it - not a a strict requirement but as guideline for inter-teams communication. So let's do the Test Days, even there's the change deadline conflict and we should make sure the real non-0-day suitable bugs will land as NTH. Jaroslav > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > test mailing list > test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
