F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #1.1 Minutes

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We were able to get through 14 of the 52 proposed blocker bugs  and none
of the 23 proposed NTH bugs in today's review meeting, so there will be
another continuation of this meeting.

I'll see if I can gather enough people for a meeting tomorrow otherwise,
we might hold off until Monday after the QA meeting.

Tim

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#fedora-qa: f18final-blocker-review-1.1
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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-11-29/f18final-blocker-review-1.1.2012-11-29-17.01.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-11-29/f18final-blocker-review-1.1.2012-11-29-17.01.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-11-29/f18final-blocker-review-1.1.2012-11-29-17.01.log.html


Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (tflink, 17:01:42)

* Introduction  (tflink, 17:11:47)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 17:12:04)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 17:12:10)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 17:12:10)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 17:12:17)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    17:12:17)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    17:12:24)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:12:25)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:12:25)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:12:25)
  * Up for review today are:  (tflink, 17:12:34)
  * 52 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 17:12:42)
  * 3 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 17:12:42)
  * 23 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 17:12:42)
  * 1 Accepted NTH  (tflink, 17:12:42)
  * The meeting will be capped at 3 hours. If we are not done by then,
    another meeting will be scheduled.  (tflink, 17:14:52)

* (876716) anaconda crashes after setting root password  (tflink,
  17:17:04)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876716   (tflink,
    17:17:04)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 17:17:04)
  * AGREED: 876716 - It seems as if more people are hitting this than
    show up on the bug but we still don't have a reliable reproducing
    case or debug info - will wait on decision in case either one of
    those things is found and revisit later.  (tflink, 17:23:27)

* (869424) RuntimeError: Error running systemctl: No such file or
  directory  (tflink, 17:23:36)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869424   (tflink,
    17:23:39)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:23:41)
  * AGREED: 869424 - This needs to be re-tested with latest anaconda in
    order to determine whether or not the original bug has been fixed.
    Will re-visit after the re-testing is complete  (tflink, 17:34:11)

* (880263) DMError: partition activation failed for 'mpatha'  (tflink,
  17:34:28)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=880263   (tflink,
    17:34:28)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 17:34:28)
  * AGREED: 880263 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion for systems using LVM on mpath: "The installer
    must boot and run on all primary architectures, with all system
    firmware types that are common on those architectures, from default
    live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media ..."  (tflink, 17:58:07)

* (876218) kernel boot + nfsiso repo = hang on reboot  (tflink,
  17:58:18)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876218   (tflink,
    17:58:18)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:58:18)
  * AGREED: 876218 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18
    release criterion for reboots during/after NFSISO based installs:
    "Any installation method or process designed to run unattended must
    do so (there should be no prompts requiring user intervention)"
    (tflink, 18:20:43)

* (875599) anaconda keeping error status after Change the installation
  source to point to a custom HTTP/FTP repository  (tflink, 18:20:49)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875599   (tflink,
    18:20:52)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 18:20:55)
  * AGREED: 875599 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this is a
    problem with a rather non-intuitive solution, it doesn't clearly
    violate any of the F18 release criteria. A well-tested fix would be
    considered after freeze.  (tflink, 18:32:08)

* (858628) Some buttons and labels in Anaconda can't be localized
  (tflink, 18:32:24)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858628   (tflink,
    18:32:25)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 18:32:25)
  * AGREED: 858628 - AcceptedBlocker - Prevents translation of some
    strings in the installer and thus violates the following F18 final
    release criterion: "All critical path actions on release-blocking
    desktop environments should correctly display all sufficiently
    complete translations available for use"  (tflink, 18:37:01)

* (875477) ValueError: name already in use  (tflink, 18:37:14)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875477   (tflink,
    18:37:14)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:37:14)
  * AGREED: 875477 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
    release criterion: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be
    capable of the following: Creating, destroying and assigning mount
    points to partitions of any specified size using most commonly-used
    filesystem types ..."  (tflink, 18:44:30)

* (876547) ValueError: ('invalid size specification', '-472.028417969
  mb')  (tflink, 18:44:48)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876547   (tflink,
    18:44:51)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 18:44:54)
  * AGREED: 876547 - At this point, there aren't enough debug logs or
    reproducers to make a call on blocker status, will revisit when
    there is more available information and more tests done.  (tflink,
    18:58:25)

* (873293) custom storage ui fails to create lvm unless all disks have
  free space  (tflink, 18:58:37)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873293   (tflink,
    18:58:40)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:58:42)
  * AGREED: 873293 - RejectedBlocker, AceptedNTH - This isn't a crash
    but it would be nice if the installer had a clearer error message to
    identify the cause of this issue, it is recoverable. Rejected as a
    blocker for F18 final but a tested fix would be considered past
    freeze.  (tflink, 19:14:05)

* (876789) FormatDestroyError: error wiping old signatures from
  /dev/md/Volume0_0p2: 1  (tflink, 19:14:29)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876789   (tflink,
    19:14:32)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 19:14:34)
  * AGREED: 876789 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
    release criterion for existing LVM LVs: "The installer's custom
    partitioning mode must be capable of the following: Creating,
    destroying and assigning mount points to partitions of any specified
    size using most commonly-used filesystem types ..."  (tflink,
    19:19:30)

* (879612) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
  '/mnt/install/isodir/dvd.iso'  (tflink, 19:19:46)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879612   (tflink,
    19:19:49)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 19:19:51)
  * AGREED: 879612 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criteria for using a local iso as an installation source:
    "The installer must be able to use all supported local and remote
    package source options"  (tflink, 19:27:03)

* (879610) SystemError: (32, 'umount: /run/install/isodir: target is
  busy. (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device
  is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))')  (tflink, 19:27:42)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879610   (tflink,
    19:27:45)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 19:27:48)
  * AGREED: 879610 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final
    release criteria for using a local iso as an installation source:
    "The installer must be able to use all supported local and remote
    package source options"  (tflink, 19:31:37)

* (869978) %packages --default doesn't install default system, but
  minimal one  (tflink, 19:32:00)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869978   (tflink,
    19:32:03)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 19:32:06)
  * ACTION: kparal to start thread on test@ about a possible new
    kickstart release criterion  (tflink, 19:47:28)
  * AGREED: 869978 - While this doesn't hit any of the current F18
    release criteria, there is discussion about adding a new release
    criterion to cover a subset of kickstart options. Will re-visit
    after discussion on test@  (tflink, 19:50:05)

* (864087) wired ethernet defaults to Off in certain situations
  (tflink, 19:50:15)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864087   (tflink,
    19:50:15)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 19:50:15)
  * AGREED: 864087 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this can be
    nonintuitive to discover and figure out post-install, it doesn't
    directly violate any F18 release criterion and could be fixed
    post-install. If it turns out that this affects lives pre-install,
    please re-propose as a blocker  (tflink, 19:57:13)
  * Hit the 3 hour mark, stopping the review meeting  (tflink, 19:57:40)

* Next Review Meeting  (tflink, 19:57:55)
  * we covered 14/52 proposed blockers and 0/23 proposed NTH in today's
    review meeting  (tflink, 20:03:41)
  * it's unclear what time is best for a continued review, will discuss
    with possibly interested parties and send announcement  (tflink,
    20:04:19)
  * ACTION: tflink to find people and time for the blocker review
    meeting continuation  (tflink, 20:04:45)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 20:05:29)

Meeting ended at 20:07:04 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* kparal to start thread on test@ about a possible new kickstart release
  criterion
* tflink to find people and time for the blocker review meeting
  continuation




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* kparal
  * kparal to start thread on test@ about a possible new kickstart
    release criterion
* tflink
  * tflink to find people and time for the blocker review meeting
    continuation
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* tflink (256)
* kparal (178)
* adamw (148)
* dlehman (26)
* akshayvyas (26)
* pschindl (24)
* zodbot (12)
* wwoods (7)
* cpuobsessed (5)
* cpu (2)
* drindt (1)
* satellit (1)
* Viking-Ice (1)
* Southern_Gentlem (1)




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