Re: criterion discussion: memory test tool

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On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 04:55 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > We get a *lot* of kernel bugs that are root-caused to be bad memory
> > or other hardware faults
> > using the memtest on the install disc.  Having it not be there by
> > default is an extra step of
> > hand-holding we need to do to get users to test things.
> 
> That is a good test case, thank you. And I agree memtest is useful. I
> just have the feeling we should not hold the release when it's not
> present (or, more concretely, I believe the criterion should not be
> present, not that we shouldn't hold the release in specific cases. If
> the problem arises, we should weight the situation and use common
> sense. For example missing memtest is a smaller issue than memtest
> reporting wrong results).
> 
> > Historically, how many times has this held up the release ?
> 
> I wouldn't like to go down this route when defining release criteria.

Worth considering the history: Petr proposed the general idea of a
criterion as part of the criteria review, and I drafted the final
wording. See thread "New criterion for Memory test" from end of January.

I don't _think_ I wrote it the way I did with the idea of sort of
'enforcing a design decision', though I certainly see that criticism. It
was more the idea that having the memory test actually is a key thing in
the Final build. But I think Kamil makes a reasonable argument that
maybe it isn't, I can certainly see the case for dropping the criterion.
It does seem unlikely that the memory test would somehow drop out as a
_quality_ issue; the only circumstance in which I could see that
happening was if we did a major rework on how the boot menu works, and
that would surely be a feature and get tested through the feature
process.

Peter, what do you think?
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