On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 04:55 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > > We get a *lot* of kernel bugs that are root-caused to be bad memory > > or other hardware faults > > using the memtest on the install disc. Having it not be there by > > default is an extra step of > > hand-holding we need to do to get users to test things. > > That is a good test case, thank you. And I agree memtest is useful. I > just have the feeling we should not hold the release when it's not > present (or, more concretely, I believe the criterion should not be > present, not that we shouldn't hold the release in specific cases. If > the problem arises, we should weight the situation and use common > sense. For example missing memtest is a smaller issue than memtest > reporting wrong results). > > > Historically, how many times has this held up the release ? > > I wouldn't like to go down this route when defining release criteria. Worth considering the history: Petr proposed the general idea of a criterion as part of the criteria review, and I drafted the final wording. See thread "New criterion for Memory test" from end of January. I don't _think_ I wrote it the way I did with the idea of sort of 'enforcing a design decision', though I certainly see that criticism. It was more the idea that having the memory test actually is a key thing in the Final build. But I think Kamil makes a reasonable argument that maybe it isn't, I can certainly see the case for dropping the criterion. It does seem unlikely that the memory test would somehow drop out as a _quality_ issue; the only circumstance in which I could see that happening was if we did a major rework on how the boot menu works, and that would surely be a feature and get tested through the feature process. Peter, what do you think? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test