F18 Beta Blocker Bug Review #3.1 Minutes

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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-10-11/f18beta-blocker-review-3.1.2012-10-11-16.04.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-10-11/f18beta-blocker-review-3.1.2012-10-11-16.04.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-10-11/f18beta-blocker-review-3.1.2012-10-11-16.04.log.html


Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (tflink, 16:04:48)

* Introduction  (tflink, 16:12:53)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 16:13:46)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 16:13:53)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 16:13:53)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 16:14:01)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    16:14:01)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    16:14:24)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:14:24)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:14:24)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:14:24)

* (864128) f18b tc anaconda gets stuck after deleting a preexisting
  partition in the 'unknown tree' after coming from a previous mistake
  or error  (tflink, 16:16:13)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864128   (tflink,
    16:16:16)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 16:16:19)
  * AGREED: 864128 - RejectedBlocker - This seems to require enough
    elements from custom partitioning that it wouldn't hit any of the
    F18 beta release criteria - as such, it is rejected as a blocker but
    could be reproposed as a final blocker with a more simple reproducer
    (tflink, 16:27:14)

* (864618) f18b tc2 anaconda issues switching languages from the main
  hub (workaround = restart and select desired language in the first
  screen)  (tflink, 16:27:52)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864618   (tflink,
    16:27:55)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 16:27:57)
  * AGREED: 864618 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't violate any of the
    F18 release criteria and thus, rejected as a blocker for F18 beta.
    (tflink, 16:31:37)

* (864765) DeviceCreateError: ('-6', 'fedora_f18v')  (tflink, 16:31:42)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864765   (tflink,
    16:31:42)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 16:31:42)
  * assigned to: anaconda-maint-list@xxxxxxxxxx  (tflink, 16:31:42)
  * AGREED: 864765 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
    release criterion: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be
    capable of the following: ... Creating, destroying and assigning
    mount points to partitions of any specified size using most
    commonly-used filesystem types"  (tflink, 16:38:38)

* (865066) 'Software selection' spoke is incorrectly rendered on top of
  the hub if you boot a DVD image, change 'installation source' to a
  remote mirror, then enter the 'software selection' spoke  (tflink,
  16:38:51)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=865066   (tflink,
    16:38:55)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 16:38:57)
  * AGREED: 865066 - AcceptedBlocker - This violates the following F18
    alpha release criterion for a non-trivial number of systems not
    using a DVD for installation : "The installer must be able to
    install each of the release blocking desktops, as well as the
    minimal package set, with each supported installation method"
    (tflink, 16:45:08)

* (864360) gpt isn't automatically created on UEFI system  (tflink,
  16:45:27)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864360   (tflink,
    16:45:27)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 16:45:28)
  * AGREED: 864360 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion for UEFI systems: "The installer must be able to
    complete an installation using automatic partitioning to any
    sufficiently large target disk, whether unformatted, empty, or
    containing any kind of existing data"  (tflink, 16:48:31)

* (864180) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute
  'isExtended'  (tflink, 16:48:53)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864180   (tflink,
    16:48:55)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 16:48:58)
  * AGREED: 864180 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an
    installation using automatic partitioning to any sufficiently large
    target disk, whether unformatted, empty, or containing any kind of
    existing data"  (tflink, 16:53:19)

* (864842) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'id'
  (tflink, 16:53:24)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864842   (tflink,
    16:53:26)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 16:53:29)
  * AGREED: 864842 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't clearly hit any of
    the F18 release criteria and is easily recoverable.  (tflink,
    17:06:09)

* (865048) kickstarted install can't autopart disk  (tflink, 17:06:18)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=865048   (tflink,
    17:06:18)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 17:06:18)
  * AGREED: 865048 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
    release criterion: "The installer must be able to successfully
    complete a scripted installation, using the installer's preferred
    scripting system, which duplicates the default interactive
    installation as closely as possible"  (tflink, 17:14:34)

* (864120) LUKS encryption option has no effect  (tflink, 17:14:52)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864120   (tflink,
    17:14:52)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST  (tflink, 17:14:52)
  * AGREED: 864120 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
    release criterion: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be
    capable of the following: ... Creating encrypted partitions"
    (tflink, 17:20:15)

* (864353) important GNOME packages are not installed from DVD/netinst
  (tflink, 17:22:37)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864353   (tflink,
    17:22:37)
  * Proposed Blocker, comps, NEW  (tflink, 17:22:37)
  * AGREED: 864353 - RejectedBlocker - While it could be argued that
    these packages should be a part of the default GNOME install, they
    can still be installed and isn't severe enough to justify blocking
    F18 beta.  (tflink, 17:31:57)

* (862801) Anaconda hangs when 'Configuring installed system'  (tflink,
  17:32:59)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862801   (tflink,
    17:32:59)
  * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, POST  (tflink, 17:32:59)
  * it sounds like this has been fixed with the updates.img linked in
    the bug  (tflink, 17:36:12)
  * waiting for a new anaconda build with a fix for this included
    (tflink, 17:37:42)

* (862612) anaconda freezes after clicking on "+" in keyboard layout
  settings  (tflink, 17:37:55)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862612   (tflink,
    17:37:58)
  * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, VERIFIED  (tflink, 17:38:01)
  * this is fixed, will be closed when the build is pushed to stable
    (tflink, 17:39:36)

* (851114) RepoError: SQLite objects created in a thread can only be
  used in that same thread  (tflink, 17:41:11)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851114   (tflink,
    17:41:14)
  * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 17:41:17)
  * this should be fixed in anaconda-18.14-1 which is in F18 beta TC3
    (tflink, 17:41:55)
  * verification of the fix is needed - request testing in bug  (tflink,
    17:42:48)

* (862613) ValueError: cannot initialize a disk that has partitions
  (tflink, 17:43:00)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862613   (tflink,
    17:43:00)
  * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 17:43:00)
  * There has been no movement on this bug since the last meeting
    (tflink, 17:47:29)
  * re-testing w/ new anaconda might be interesting with the changes
    that have been pushed recently  (tflink, 17:47:51)

* (824191) nfsiso install hangs during reboot  (tflink, 17:49:14)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824191   (tflink,
    17:49:14)
  * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 17:49:14)
  * this may not be a beta blocker any more with the recently revised
    criteria  (tflink, 17:55:36)
  * if nfs package source works (mounting exploded pkg tree w/ nfs),
    this is not a beta blocker  (tflink, 17:55:39)
  * ACTION: kparal to re-test 824191 and check with anaconda team that
    the fix made it into the f18 codebase  (tflink, 17:55:58)

* (855526) f18a tc6 anaconda cannot connect to a protected wireless
  network  (tflink, 17:56:32)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855526   (tflink,
    17:56:35)
  * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, POST  (tflink, 17:56:38)
  * an updates.img was just posted in the bug yesterday  (tflink,
    17:57:25)
  * request testing w/ the updates.img in the bug  (tflink, 17:57:47)

* (853877) anaconda ignores keyboard settings  (tflink, 17:59:09)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853877   (tflink,
    17:59:09)
  * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, POST  (tflink, 17:59:09)
  * patch has been submitted but may not have made it into an anaconda
    build yet  (tflink, 18:00:23)
  * ACTION: adamw to ping anaconda team to review patches for 853877
    (adamw, 18:01:45)

* (862557) repoclosure failure on 18 Beta TC2 DVDs (kernel)  (tflink,
  18:02:10)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862557   (tflink,
    18:02:10)
  * Accepted Blocker, kernel, MODIFIED  (tflink, 18:02:10)
  * according to comment#12, this has been fixed  (tflink, 18:03:09)
  * since the affected kernel build is in stable, this can be closed
    (tflink, 18:03:33)

* (853913) [de_DE] dialogs are trimmed in some languages  (tflink,
  18:06:15)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853913   (tflink,
    18:06:15)
  * Proposed NTH, anaconda, MODIFIED  (tflink, 18:06:16)
  * this bug is fixed and due to be closed, review is not needed
    (tflink, 18:10:46)

* (857412) cannot set up time sync, couldn't write /etc/ntp.conf
  (tflink, 18:10:54)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857412   (tflink,
    18:10:54)
  * Proposed NTH, system-config-date, NEW  (tflink, 18:10:54)
  * AGREED: 857412 - RejectedNTH - network time sync is a non-vital
    function and this can be acceptably fixed with an update. Therefore,
    it is rejected as NTH for F18 beta.  (adamw, 18:19:46)

* (857076) reboot after Live installation hangs  (tflink, 18:19:54)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857076   (tflink,
    18:19:55)
  * Proposed NTH, systemd, NEW  (tflink, 18:19:55)
  * AGREED: 857076 - AcceptedNTH - This doesn't seem to affect all
    installations but it is rather sever and has the potential to cause
    data corruption. Accepted as NTH for F18 beta, please propose as a
    blocker if it turns out to be more severe than currently understood
    (tflink, 18:27:14)

* (863676) /etc/localtime link overwritten with incorrect timezone file
  during firstboot  (tflink, 18:27:25)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=863676   (tflink,
    18:27:28)
  * Proposed NTH, system-config-date, NEW  (tflink, 18:27:30)
  * AGREED: 863676 - AcceptedNTH - While this doesn't violate any of the
    release criteria for F18 beta, it would lead to confusion of users
    and can't be fixed with an update. Therefore, it is accepted as NTH
    for F18 beta.  (tflink, 18:31:17)

* (865031) Black screen when booting on iMac12,2 (27" 2011 model)
  (tflink, 18:31:26)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=865031   (tflink,
    18:31:26)
  * Proposed NTH, xorg-x11-drv-ati, NEW  (tflink, 18:31:26)
  * AGREED: 865031 - AcceptedNTH - graphical problems on boot are
    considered severe enough to be accepted as NTH. A well tested fix
    would be accepted past freeze.  (tflink, 18:37:27)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 18:39:08)
  * The next blocker review meeting will be 2012-10-17 @ 16:00 UTC
    (tflink, 18:41:28)

Meeting ended at 18:44:47 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* kparal to re-test 824191 and check with anaconda team that the fix
  made it into the f18 codebase
* adamw to ping anaconda team to review patches for 853877




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
  * adamw to ping anaconda team to review patches for 853877
* kparal
  * kparal to re-test 824191 and check with anaconda team that the fix
    made it into the f18 codebase
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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