F18 Beta Blocker Bug Review #2.1 Minutes

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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call  (tflink, 16:00:18)

* Introduction  (tflink, 16:10:52)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 16:11:02)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 16:11:14)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 16:11:14)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 16:11:19)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    16:11:20)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    16:11:26)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:11:26)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:11:26)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:11:26)
  * 26 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 16:11:46)
  * 13 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 16:11:47)
  * 5 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 16:11:47)
  * 5 Accepted NTH  (tflink, 16:11:47)

* (860551) black screen fedora 20120924-test_days-x86_64  (tflink,
  16:13:40)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860551   (tflink,
    16:13:40)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 16:13:40)
  * AGREED: 860551 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While severe, this
    seems to affect a very small subset of hardware and thus does not
    qualify for blocker status. However, a well-tested fix would be
    considered past freeze  (tflink, 16:32:35)

* (860668) artifacts on xrestart with rv710  (tflink, 16:34:14)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860668   (tflink,
    16:34:15)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 16:34:15)
  * AGREED: 860668 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - There is only one
    reporter on this bug and it doesn't prevent booting of the system.
    This doesn't appear to be widespread enough to justify blocker
    status. This could be fixed with an update, therefore it does not
    qualify as NTH.  (tflink, 16:39:33)

* (860712) [6550D SUMO] problems with second monitor on VGA, causing GPU
  lockups  (tflink, 16:39:40)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860712   (tflink,
    16:39:43)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 16:39:45)
  * AGREED: 860712 - RejectedBlocker - This does not affect enough
    hardware to qualify as a blocker, has reasonable workarounds (unplug
    second monitor) and could be fixed with an update (at least from
    console)  (tflink, 16:49:23)

* (752613) Nivida 100M on Lenovo W520 Wont boot if using Discrete
  Graphics  (tflink, 16:49:34)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=752613   (tflink,
    16:49:37)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 16:49:40)
  * AGREED: 752613 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This does not affect
    enough hardware to qualify as a blocker for F18 beta. However, it is
    an X showstopper for some and thus, a tested fix would be considered
    for pulling in past freeze.  (tflink, 17:06:16)

* (855560) F18 Live Alpha : nVidia GeForce 8600M GT, graphic driver
  (nouveau): very poor performance (vesa is fluid)  (tflink, 17:06:25)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855560   (tflink,
    17:06:28)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:06:31)
  * AGREED: 855560 - We need more information about potential
    workarounds and kernel versions before making a decision on blocker
    status. Will revisit at a later meeting.  (tflink, 17:14:15)

* (860477) nouveau Xorg crash following boot (GTX 580)  (tflink,
  17:14:26)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860477   (tflink,
    17:14:26)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:14:26)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861646   (Martix,
    17:24:37)
  * AGREED: 860477 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While severe, this
    appears to affect a small minority of hardware at the moment and
    thus does not qualify as a blocker for F18 beta. However, it is an X
    showstopper and thus qualifies as NTH.  (tflink, 17:28:53)

* (860624) Gnome-shall hangs when requested activities  (tflink,
  17:29:03)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860624   (tflink,
    17:29:03)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:29:03)
  * AGREED: 860624 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't clearly violate any
    of the F18 beta release criteria and there are few reporters. Thus,
    it doesn't qualify as a blocker for F18 beta  (tflink, 17:39:22)

* (745202) gnome-shell does not display correctly with NV3x adapters -
  multicolor corruption of panel, Shell-style menus and text [nvfx]
  (tflink, 17:39:39)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202   (tflink,
    17:39:41)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:39:44)
  * adamw to pull together an info request to figure out if the
    blacklist is indeed broken  (tflink, 17:46:52)
  * AGREED: 745202 - We need more information on this bug before
    deciding on blocker status. If the blacklist is indeed broken for
    F18, this would qualify as a blocker  (tflink, 17:46:57)

* (844167) Error in PREIN scriptlet in rpm package
  libvirt-daemon-0.9.11.4-3.fc17.x86_64  (tflink, 17:47:17)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=844167   (tflink,
    17:47:20)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:47:23)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=844167 , where
    prein scripts that create users fail when run with f17
    selinux-policy .  (adamw, 17:55:43)
  * AGREED: 844167 - We need to test with the new upgrade tool before
    making a decision on blocker status. Will re-visit at a later date
    (tflink, 17:57:58)

* (861646) Sporadic GPU Lockups when Fast User Switching  (tflink,
  17:58:16)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861646   (tflink,
    17:58:16)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:58:17)
  * AGREED: - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't clearly hit any of the F18
    beta release requirements and at the moment, seems to be limited to
    a small subset of hardware. Thus, rejected as a blocker for F18 beta
    (tflink, 18:02:26)

* (861746) GDM login screen artefacts and corruption with Geforce 210
  (tflink, 18:02:36)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861746   (tflink,
    18:02:36)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:02:36)
  * AGREED: 861746 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't clearly hit any of
    the F18 beta release requirements and at the moment, seems to be
    limited to a small subset of hardware. Thus, rejected as a blocker
    for F18 beta.  (tflink, 18:04:08)

* (858837) ATI Mobility Radeon X1350 doesn't boot LiveCD  (tflink,
  18:04:17)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858837   (tflink,
    18:04:17)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:04:17)
  * AGREED: 858837 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't clearly hit any of
    the F18 beta release requirements and at the moment, seems to be
    limited to a small subset of hardware. Thus, rejected as a blocker
    for F18 beta.  (tflink, 18:08:24)

* (862742) TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer,
  NoneType found  (tflink, 18:08:38)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862742   (tflink,
    18:08:41)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:08:43)
  * AGREED: 862742 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an
    installation using automatic partitioning to any sufficiently large
    target disk, whether unformatted, empty, or containing any kind of
    existing data"  (tflink, 18:14:13)

* (862925) kernel: radeon 0000:01:05.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more
  than 10000msec  (tflink, 18:14:29)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862925   (tflink,
    18:14:33)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:14:35)
  * AGREED: 862925 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't appear to affect
    enough hardware to qualify as a blocker for F18 beta. Thus, rejected
    as a blocker for F18 beta.  (tflink, 18:20:21)

* (862537) Fedora 18 Beta TC1 DVD fails to boot  (tflink, 18:20:31)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862537   (tflink,
    18:20:31)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:20:31)
  * AGREED: 862537 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion: "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run
    on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that
    are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and
    boot.iso install media when written to an optical disc and when
    written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported
    methods"  (tflink, 18:24:41)

* (853508) PXE-install won't boot  (tflink, 18:24:48)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853508   (tflink,
    18:24:48)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:24:48)
  * AGREED: 853508 - This needs more testing before deciding on blocker
    status. PXE has been reported as working for F18 beta TC1, request
    retesting from the reporter to determine more details on what, if
    anything, is still broken  (tflink, 18:29:07)

* (824191) nfsiso install hangs during reboot  (tflink, 18:35:25)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824191   (tflink,
    18:35:25)
  * Accepted Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:35:25)
  * no movement on this since 20120706  (tflink, 18:37:02)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862996   (adamw,
    18:37:04)
  * this really needs re-testing to determine whether it has been fixed
    or if there are new issues  (tflink, 18:38:01)
  * 862996 could be related but that is PXE/nfsiso combined. Would
    prefer to see retesting with just NFSISO  (tflink, 18:38:38)

* (853877) anaconda ignores language / keyboard settings  (tflink,
  18:39:16)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853877   (tflink,
    18:39:16)
  * Accepted Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:39:16)
  * there has been no movement on this since 2012-09-13  (tflink,
    18:41:20)
  * we need status from anaconda devs for this bug  (tflink, 18:41:36)

* (855526) f18a tc6 anaconda cannot connect to a protected wireless
  network  (tflink, 18:42:49)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855526   (tflink,
    18:42:51)
  * Accepted Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:42:54)
  * there has been no movement on this since 2012-09-23  (tflink,
    18:43:30)
  * it would be good to see re-testing with beta TC2 if there have been
    changes in networking config in the installer  (tflink, 18:44:46)

* (855849) could not UEFI boot F18 Alpha (TC6 through RC3) DVD or
  netinst written to optical disc or dd'ed to USB: /dev/root does not
  exist  (tflink, 18:45:01)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855849   (tflink,
    18:45:04)
  * Accepted Blocker, VERIFIED  (tflink, 18:45:07)
  * this has been VERIFIED, waiting for push to stable  (tflink,
    18:45:40)

* (849707) AttributeError: 'BTRFSVolumeDevice' object has no attribute
  'isMagic'  (tflink, 18:45:50)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849707   (tflink,
    18:45:53)
  * Accepted Blocker, ON_QA  (tflink, 18:45:56)
  * reported to be fixed, only to hit another BTRFS related bug
    (tflink, 18:46:46)
  * set to VERIFIED, will be closed when next anaconda is pushed to
    stable  (tflink, 18:47:06)

* (856225) PackageKit can't import Fedora GPG key  (tflink, 18:47:19)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856225   (tflink,
    18:47:19)
  * Accepted Blocker, VERIFIED  (tflink, 18:48:15)
  * fix has been VERIFIED, will be closed when rpm build with fix is
    pushed to stable  (tflink, 18:48:37)

* (859285) initrd is used in grub2 for efi system (initrdefi should be
  used)  (tflink, 18:48:48)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859285   (tflink,
    18:48:51)
  * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 18:48:54)
  * this has been reported to be fixed by the original reporter - move
    to VERIFIED  (tflink, 18:50:24)

* open floor  (tflink, 18:55:14)
  * next blocker review meeting will be 2012-10-10 @ 16:00 UTC in
    #fedora-qa  (tflink, 19:01:36)

Meeting ended at 19:02:14 UTC.




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