F18 Beta Blocker Bug Review #2 Minutes

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#fedora-qa: f18-beta-blocker-review-2
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We didn't get through all of the bugs up for review today and will be
continuing the review tomorrow.

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-10-03/f18-beta-blocker-review-2.2012-10-03-16.00.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-10-03/f18-beta-blocker-review-2.2012-10-03-16.00.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-10-03/f18-beta-blocker-review-2.2012-10-03-16.00.log.html


Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (tflink, 16:01:00)

* Introduction  (tflink, 16:11:33)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 16:11:40)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 16:11:48)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 16:11:49)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 16:11:56)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    16:11:56)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    16:12:02)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:12:02)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:12:02)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:12:03)
  * 39 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 16:12:21)
  * 7 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 16:12:22)
  * 5 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 16:12:22)
  * 4 Accepted NTH  (tflink, 16:12:22)

* (847831) kickstart boot fails  (tflink, 16:14:37)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847831   (tflink,
    16:14:37)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 16:14:37)
  * ACTION: tflink to investigate 847831 and poke anaconda devs if
    needed  (tflink, 16:18:01)
  * AGREED: 847831 - We're still waiting for data on what exactly is
    broken here - will revisit once that data is available  (tflink,
    16:20:12)

* (841451) polkitd doesn't start in F18/rawhide upgraded from F17 using
  yum due to failure to create polkitd user/group  (tflink, 16:20:19)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841451   (tflink,
    16:20:23)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 16:20:25)
  * AGREED: (841451) - There has been no objection to closing this as a
    dupe of 844167 - close as a dupe  (tflink, 16:29:30)

* (847472) DM configuration migration on upgrade not working  (tflink,
  16:29:36)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847472   (tflink,
    16:29:37)
  * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA  (tflink, 16:29:37)
  * AGREED: 847472 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
    release criterion: "It must be possible to successfully complete an
    upgrade from a fully updated installation of the previous stable
    Fedora release with the 'minimal' package set or the package set for
    a release-blocking desktop, using any officially recommended upgrade
    mechanism. The upgraded system must meet all release criteria."
    (tflink, 16:37:23)

* (855976) In F18 Alpha, 'automatic' partitioning simply wipes your
  entire disk without warning you first  (tflink, 16:37:45)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855976   (tflink,
    16:37:48)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 16:37:50)
  * AGREED: 855976 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
    release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an
    installation using automatic partitioning to a validly-formatted
    disk with sufficient empty space, using the empty space and
    installing a bootloader but leaving the pre-existing partitions and
    data untouched"  (tflink, 16:46:52)

* (835648) kernel freeze after [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 on
  T520 with Quadro NVS 4200M  (tflink, 16:47:28)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=835648   (tflink,
    16:47:31)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 16:47:34)
  * AGREED: 835648 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - While serious, it
    affects a minority of hardware configurations and appears easy to
    workaround. Rejected as blocker for F18 beta, please re-propose if
    it turns out that the workaround doesn't work or more HW is affected
    than our current understanding  (tflink, 16:57:04)

* (856938) Native UEFI install from F18 Alpha RC3 DVD written to USB
  with livecd-iso-to-disk fails to boot  (tflink, 16:58:27)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856938   (tflink,
    16:58:30)
  * Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED  (tflink, 16:58:33)
  * this bug is fixed but update is not yet in stable - doesn't need any
    review - skipping  (tflink, 17:00:50)

* (859632) Cannot edit boot entries  (tflink, 17:01:01)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632   (tflink,
    17:01:02)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:01:02)
  * AGREED: 859632 - More data on the cause of this bug is needed before
    we make a decision on blocker status  (tflink, 17:24:59)

* (856362) KeyError: 'la-latin1'  (tflink, 17:25:07)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856362   (tflink,
    17:25:07)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:25:07)
  * AGREED: 856362 - This was filed against preupgrade - we need to see
    if the new tool is affected before deciding on blocker status
    (tflink, 17:28:29)

* (859224) Please take systemd-logind's
  handle-power-key/handle-suspend-key/handle-hibernate-key/handle-lid-switch
  inhibitor locks if GNOME wants to handle the respective keys on its
  own  (tflink, 17:31:15)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859224   (tflink,
    17:31:19)
  * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA  (tflink, 17:31:22)
  * AGREED: 859224 - RejectedBlocker - Since this appears to only affect
    suspend, it doesn't affect any of the F18 beta release criteria and
    thus is not a blocker for F18 beta. If this is still a significant
    issue during freeze, please re-propose as NTH  (tflink, 17:38:52)

* (862221) repo.getPackage(po) fails with yum-3.4.3-44 but works using
  git master  (tflink, 17:39:09)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862221   (tflink,
    17:39:12)
  * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA  (tflink, 17:39:14)
  * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OfflineSystemUpdates
    (Viking-Ice, 17:41:02)
  * AGREED: 862221 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - This does not
    violate any F18 beta release criteria and thus does not qualify for
    blocker status. This does affect a F18 feature but that doesn't
    qualify for NTH by itself, either  (tflink, 17:43:07)

* (860791) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
  '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0'  (tflink, 17:43:16)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860791   (tflink,
    17:43:19)
  * Proposed Blocker, POST  (tflink, 17:43:22)
  * AGREED: 860791 - This bug is really vague and we need more
    information before making a decision on blocker status  (tflink,
    17:52:31)

* (860276) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character
  u'\xe9' in position 10: ordinal not in range(128)  (tflink, 17:52:48)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860276   (tflink,
    17:52:51)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:52:53)
  * AGREED: 860276 - This appears to be a symptom of 858591, mark as a
    duplicate  (tflink, 17:59:35)

* (860430) RFE: dual boot support in newui  (tflink, 17:59:44)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860430   (tflink,
    17:59:44)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:59:45)
  * AGREED: 860430 - This may be a blocker but as currently written,
    does not violate any criteria. Will re-visit at a later meeting once
    it has been clarified  (tflink, 18:09:35)

* (859485) « Copy settings » to system in G-C-C's « Region &
  Language » panel causes weird keyboard behavior  (tflink, 18:09:48)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859485   (tflink,
    18:09:51)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:09:53)
  * AGREED: 859485 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the F18
    beta release criteria and thus is rejected as a blocker.  (tflink,
    18:13:23)

* (859614) [abrt] systemd-analyze-191-2.fc18:
  connection.py:651:call_blocking:DBusException:
  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Resource temporarily unavailable
  (tflink, 18:13:40)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859614   (tflink,
    18:13:43)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:13:46)
  * ACTION: adamw to re-test the tty bug with the new systemd build when
    lennart submits it  (adamw, 18:23:17)
  * AGREED: 859614 - Since this bug isn't against the stable version of
    systemd, it doesn't qualify as a blocker for F18 beta. De-propose as
    a blocker for F18 beta, if 190+ is pushed stable before freeze,
    re-propose as blocker  (tflink, 18:26:09)

* (862612) anaconda freezes after clicking on "+" in keyboard layout
  settings  (tflink, 18:26:23)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862612   (tflink,
    18:26:26)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:26:28)
  * AGREED: 862612 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
    following F18 alpha release criterion for non-US keyboards: "The
    installer must be able to complete an installation using the text,
    graphical and VNC installation interfaces"  (tflink, 18:33:07)

* (862613) ValueError: cannot initialize a disk that has partitions
  (tflink, 18:33:21)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862613   (tflink,
    18:33:21)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:33:21)
  * AGREED: 862613 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta
    release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an
    installation using automatic partitioning to a validly-formatted
    disk with sufficient empty space, using the empty space and
    installing a bootloader but leaving the pre-existing partitions and
    data untouched"  (tflink, 18:36:14)

* (851114) RepoError: SQLite objects created in a thread can only be
  used in that same thread  (tflink, 18:36:22)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851114   (tflink,
    18:36:25)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:36:28)
  * AGREED: 851114 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the
    following F18 alpha release criterion (it is a timing bug that is
    very easy to hit): "The installer must be able to install each of
    the release blocking desktops, as well as the minimal package set,
    with each supported installation method"  (tflink, 18:38:55)

* (862557) repoclosure failure on 18 Beta TC1 DVDs (kernel)  (tflink,
  18:39:07)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862557   (tflink,
    18:39:07)
  * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 18:39:07)
  * AGREED: 862557 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion: "There must be no file conflicts (cases where the
    files in some packages conflict but the packages have explicit
    Conflicts: tags are acceptable) or unresolved package dependencies
    during a media-based (DVD) install"  (tflink, 18:46:50)

* (862784) error: rpmdb open failed  (tflink, 18:46:55)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862784   (tflink,
    18:46:57)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:47:00)
  * ACTION: adamw to discipline himself for bad drafting  (adamw,
    18:57:47)
  * AGREED: 862784 - As currently written, this does violate the F18
    beta release requirements but this is an unintended consequence of
    recent re-wording. Will re-visit next meeting once there has been a
    chance for criteria revision  (tflink, 18:58:33)

* (862006) NameError: global name 'size_func_kwargs' is not defined
  (tflink, 18:58:38)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862006   (tflink,
    18:58:38)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:58:39)
  * AGREED: 862006 - AcceptedBlocker (final) - It's still unclear
    whether or not this qualifies as a beta blocker for F18 but is a
    clear final blocker - will re-visit beta blocker status once we have
    more clarity on the status of LVM as a common partition type
    (tflink, 19:14:54)

* (862801) Anaconda hangs when 'Configuring installed system'  (tflink,
  19:15:45)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862801   (tflink,
    19:15:46)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:15:46)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862801#c8
    (satellit, 19:19:29)
  * AGREED: 862801 - We need more information on what exactly is causing
    this and whether it is hardware specific before making a decision on
    blocker status  (tflink, 19:21:42)

* (790365) Can't resume from suspend to RAM: Black screen and laptop
  frozen  (tflink, 19:21:56)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790365   (tflink,
    19:21:59)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:22:02)

* (847818) Radeon RS690M/X1200 screen corruption beyond
  kernel-3.4.6-2.fc17.i686  (tflink, 19:27:23)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847818   (tflink,
    19:27:26)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 19:27:29)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (Martix,
    19:28:32)
  * AGREED: 847818 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This appears to only
    affect a single adapter which isn't enough to justify blocker status
    for F18 beta. However, it is enough to justify NTH - a well tested
    fix would be accepted past freeze  (tflink, 19:39:55)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862591 nice to
    have?  (satellit, 19:39:57)

* Next Meeting  (tflink, 19:40:21)
  * Blocker review will continue 2012-10-04 @ 16:00 UTC  (tflink,
    19:42:10)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 19:42:15)

Meeting ended at 19:44:33 UTC.




Action Items
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* tflink to investigate 847831 and poke anaconda devs if needed
* adamw to re-test the tty bug with the new systemd build when lennart
  submits it
* adamw to discipline himself for bad drafting




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
  * adamw to re-test the tty bug with the new systemd build when lennart
    submits it
  * adamw to discipline himself for bad drafting
* tflink
  * tflink to investigate 847831 and poke anaconda devs if needed
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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* tflink (352)
* adamw (324)
* Viking-Ice (165)
* kparal (131)
* Martix (48)
* akshayvyas (28)
* zodbot (21)
* poettering (11)
* satellit (8)
* drago01 (7)
* Martix1 (3)
* garretraziel (3)
* nanonyme (1)




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