On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > If you run the firewall-config GUI there are no rules listed anywhere. "iptables -L" shows there are plenty defined. I'm not sure I follow. iptables and firewalld aren't at all related and shouldn't be used at the same time. firewall-config wouldn't list iptables rules. > I thought that maybe they were "invisible" but I soon found out that doing a "Reload firewalld" causes all services to be unavailable. A systemctl restart of firewalld is needed to restore a "working" system. Hmm. The point of firewalld is exactly that restarts of the daemon aren't needed for behavior changes to be applied, unlike iptables. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test