As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121001 Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-10-08 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121008 . Thanks! TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * "adamw to refine alpha partitioning criterion" - this was done and would be discussed later in the meeting * "adamw to draft new partitioning criterion for Beta once we know what will be in anaconda" - this was done and would be discussed later in the meeting * "adamw to consider revisions to 'kickstart delivery method' criterion" - not yet done * "tflink to ask other interested parties (anaconda team, fesco...) to look over the beta criteria and see if there's anything they feel should be dialled down" - not yet done, tim was waiting for the criteria proposals before sending it out TOPIC: Release criteria: Partitioning ======================================================================= * Pre-meeting proposals were on the mailing list[1] * The proposed Alpha criteria were approved without modification * The proposed Beta criteria were approved with minor modifications to make the intent clearer and add a requirement that custom partitioning be able to destroy partitions * Possible further criteria were discussed, including one covering the re-use of an existing /home partition, but it was agreed to propose this on the mailing list for further revision TOPIC: Release criteria: Upgrade ======================================================================= * Pre-meeting proposals were on the mailing list[2] * The proposed criteria were approved, but with the agreement that the use of the word 'or' is ambiguous and should be improved to clarify the meaning * To avoid confusion it was agreed that the intent of the criteria is that _all three cases_ for upgrading - minimal package set, GNOME package set, and KDE package set - must work, not just _any one of the three_ TOPIC: Fedora 18 Beta freeze readiness ======================================================================= * FESCo will be determining this week if the F18 codebase, especially anaconda, is complete enough to enter freeze for Beta, which was planned for 2012-10-09 * The code for the new upgrade tool was available[3], but it had not had any official release and we did not believe it was yet in a testable state * The partitioning code in the latest available anaconda release at time of meeting did not yet support non-destructive automatic partitioning into free space * wwoods affirmed that the new upgrade tool would be testable by the freeze deadline * dlehman affirmed that the partitioning code would meet the Beta requirements by the freeze deadline * We agreed that the state of Fedora 18 as of time of meeting was not good enough to freeze for Beta, but if the upgrade tool was testable and the partitioning code met the Beta requirements by the freeze date, then freezing would be acceptable * We agreed to pass this evaluation on to the FESCo ticket[4] TOPIC: Open Floor ======================================================================= N/A ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * adamw to propose a criterion covering basic (not advanced) re-use of /home for Beta 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-October/110494.html 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-October/110512.html 3. http://github.com/wgwoods/fedup 4. http://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/946 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test