===================================== #fedora-qa: f18-beta-blocker-review-1 ===================================== Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-09-26/f18-beta-blocker-review-1.2012-09-26-16.03.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-09-26/f18-beta-blocker-review-1.2012-09-26-16.03.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-09-26/f18-beta-blocker-review-1.2012-09-26-16.03.log.html Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:03:46) * Introduction (tflink, 16:12:06) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:12:17) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:12:29) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:12:29) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:12:38) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:12:38) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:12:48) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:48) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:48) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:48) * AGREED: - Leave all proposed blockers which would hit a criterion currently proposed for revision for a later review meeting (tflink, 16:16:13) * 32 Proposed Blocker (tflink, 16:16:41) * 0 Accepted Blocker (tflink, 16:16:42) * 6 Proposed NTH (tflink, 16:16:42) * 0 Accepted NTH (tflink, 16:16:42) * (824191) nfsiso install hangs during reboot (tflink, 16:17:58) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824191 (tflink, 16:17:58) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:17:58) * AGREED: - 824191 - AcceptedBlocker - Accepted as a blocker for F18 beta due to violation of the following criterion: "The installer must be able to use the HTTP, FTP and NFS remote package source options" (tflink, 16:31:31) * (847831) kickstart boot fails (tflink, 16:31:43) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847831 (tflink, 16:31:43) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:31:44) * AGREED: 847831 - There isn't enough information on what exactly is going wrong here to make a decision on blocker/NTH - will revisit after more testing (tflink, 16:43:52) * (841451) polkitd doesn't start in F18/rawhide upgraded from F17 using yum due to failure to create polkitd user/group (tflink, 16:44:11) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841451 (tflink, 16:44:14) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:44:17) * AGREED: 841451 - This is a potential upgrade issue and as the upgrade criterion is currently up for revision, not evaluating more today (tflink, 16:48:11) * (847472) DM configuration migration on upgrade not working (tflink, 16:48:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847472 (tflink, 16:48:22) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:48:22) * AGREED: 847472 - This is a potential upgrade issue and as the upgrade criterion is currently up for revision, not evaluating more today (tflink, 16:49:16) * (853961) power-off/reboot results in log out after a long timeout (tflink, 16:49:25) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853961 (tflink, 16:49:25) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:49:25) * ACTION: kparal to re-test 853961 (tflink, 16:51:53) * AGREED: 853961 - Not enough people reported seeing this to accept it as a blocker right now, more testing is needed (tflink, 16:53:49) * (853964) gdm freezes after authentication failure (tflink, 16:54:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853964 (tflink, 16:54:01) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:54:01) * ACTION: adamw to propose Alpha and Beta criteria for login manager behaviour (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_login) (adamw, 16:59:35) * AGREED: 853964 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "Following on from the previous criterion, after firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to a working graphical environment without unintended user intervention." (tflink, 17:01:23) * (853877) anaconda ignores language / keyboard settings (tflink, 17:01:38) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853877 (tflink, 17:01:38) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:01:38) * AGREED: 853877 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha criterion for non-US keyboards: "Following on from the previous criterion, after firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to a working graphical environment without unintended user intervention. This includes correctly accessing any encrypted partitions when the correct passphrase is supplied" (tflink, 17:07:53) * (855284) hanging gnome session processes cause gdm to think user still has an X session (was: gdm Session selection UI disappearing) (tflink, 17:09:10) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855284 (tflink, 17:09:13) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:09:15) * AGREED: 855284 - RejectedBlocker - The session choosing UI component in GDM is not part of any release criteria and thus rejected as a blocker bug for F18 beta (tflink, 17:20:14) * (855976) In F18 Alpha, 'automatic' partitioning simply wipes your entire disk without warning you first (tflink, 17:20:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855976 (tflink, 17:20:34) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:20:36) * AGREED: 855976 - Skipping review of this bug for now as partitioning related criteria are still under revision (tflink, 17:23:18) * (855083) Fail to start graphical installation on cirrus card in qemu (tflink, 17:24:05) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855083 (tflink, 17:24:05) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:24:06) * AGREED: 855083 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This bug only affects cirrus adapters which are no longer the default in Fedora's virt platforms. Since qxl is not affected, rejecting as a blocker for F18 beta. As cirrus is not uncommon, accepting as NTH (tflink, 17:35:13) * (856894) 18 Alpha RC3 64-bit XFCE Live is > 700 MiB (tflink, 17:35:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856894 (tflink, 17:35:23) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:35:23) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/18/Spins (nirik, 17:38:05) * AGREED: 856894 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion for the XFCE spin: "The network installation image, DVD image, and live images for release-blocking desktops must meet current size requirements". Since XFCE is not a release-blocking DE, this is NTH instead of blocker. (tflink, 17:40:26) * (856090) ntpd not installed, causes firstboot to hang when user selects "Sync date and time over network" (tflink, 17:49:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856090 (tflink, 17:49:04) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:49:06) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/79 (adamw, 17:49:25) * AGREED: 856090 RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - doesn't hit any Beta criteria, but NTH as it's a visible flaw in common firstboot functionality (adamw, 17:56:08) * (857886) X crash when unlocking Gnome Shell (tflink, 17:56:19) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857886 (tflink, 17:56:19) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:56:19) * AGREED: 857886 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "after firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to a working graphical environment without unintended user intervention." (tflink, 18:03:03) * (849707) AttributeError: 'BTRFSVolumeDevice' object has no attribute 'isMagic' (tflink, 18:03:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849707 (tflink, 18:03:19) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:03:21) * AGREED: 849707 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion for systems with btrfs partitions: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using the text, graphical and VNC installation interfaces" (tflink, 18:11:48) * (835648) kernel freeze after [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 on T520 with Quadro NVS 4200M (tflink, 18:12:04) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=835648 (tflink, 18:12:07) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:12:09) * AGREED: 835648 - Waiting for more information before deciding on blocker status for beta - disabling VT-d is probably an OK workaround for beta, may reject and move to final blocker (tflink, 18:23:04) * (856225) PackageKit can't import Fedora GPG key (tflink, 18:23:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856225 (tflink, 18:23:16) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:23:16) * AGREED: 856225 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops" (tflink, 18:30:01) * (856256) Crash when unlocking screensaver (tflink, 18:30:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856256 (tflink, 18:30:15) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:30:15) * AGREED: 846256 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "after firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a system installed according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must boot to a working graphical environment without unintended user intervention." (tflink, 18:38:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855849 (tflink, 18:38:36) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:38:38) * AGREED: 856256 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion: "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported methods" (tflink, 18:42:44) * (858233) automatic partitioning hangs when removing existing LVs (tflink, 18:42:56) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858233 (tflink, 18:42:56) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:42:56) * AGREED: 858233 - We would like to see more data and testing on this before deciding on blocker status. This may be fixed in anaconda-18.8-1 but confimation would be helpful (tflink, 18:50:36) * (858270) basic graphics mode doesn't create Xorg conf file specifying vesa (tflink, 18:50:55) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858270 (tflink, 18:50:58) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:51:01) * AGREED: 858270 - RejectedBlocker - While not behaving in an ideal manner, there is little that is actually broken from a practical perspective. Therefore this bug is rejected as a blocker for F18 beta (tflink, 19:07:38) * (856938) Native UEFI install from F18 Alpha RC3 DVD written to USB with livecd-iso-to-disk fails to boot (tflink, 19:07:56) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856938 (tflink, 19:07:59) * Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 19:08:01) * AGREED: 856938 - Problem was identified but the number of affected UEFI systems is still unclear - will revisit once more data is available (tflink, 19:20:37) * (854643) XklWrapperError: Failed to remove layout 'us ()' (tflink, 19:20:52) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854643 (tflink, 19:20:52) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:20:52) * AGREED: 854643 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This seems a bit obscure to take as a blocker since you have to add and remove keyboard layouts in a specific order (tflink, 19:26:42) * (855526) f18a tc6 anaconda cannot connect to a protected wireless network (tflink, 19:27:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855526 (tflink, 19:27:16) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:27:18) * AGREED: 855526 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion for wireless networks which require authentication: "The installer must be able to use at least one of the HTTP or FTP remote package source options" (tflink, 19:37:56) * (854959) Exception handling in Anaconda doesn't work if dump contains non-ascii characters (tflink, 19:40:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854959 (tflink, 19:40:15) * Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 19:40:15) * AGREED: 854959 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This has been partially fixed already and doesn't clearly hit any of the alpha or beta release criteria - rejecting as blocker. It would be good to get all non-ascii crashdumps so accepted as NTH for F18 beta (tflink, 19:44:49) * (859285) initrd is used in grub2 for efi system (initrdefi should be used) (tflink, 19:45:09) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859285 (tflink, 19:45:12) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:45:15) * AGREED: 859285 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha criterion for kernel updates on UEFI systems - "The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops" (tflink, 20:04:17) * (859460) gnome-shell fix for polkit auth_admin authentication (tflink, 20:04:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859460 (tflink, 20:04:34) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:04:34) * AGREED: 859460 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion for users not in the wheel group on systems using gnome-shell "The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops" (tflink, 20:09:53) * (859632) Cannot edit boot entries (tflink, 20:09:58) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632 (tflink, 20:09:58) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:09:58) * AGREED: 859632 - This could possibly be another symptom of 850783 but more details are needed before we decide on blocker status (graphics driver, installation method, versions etc.) (tflink, 20:14:24) * (856362) KeyError: 'la-latin1' (tflink, 20:14:36) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856362 (tflink, 20:14:36) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:14:36) * AGREED: 856362 - As the upgrade situation for F18 is still unknown, this may or may not be a blocker-worthy issue. Will revisit once we have more information on how upgrades to F18 will work (tflink, 20:24:40) * (859855) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name' (tflink, 20:24:44) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859855 (tflink, 20:24:44) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:24:44) * AGREED: 859855 - As the upgrade tool situation for F18 is still unknown, this may or may not be a blocker-worthy bug. Will revisit once we have more information on how upgrades to F18 will work. (tflink, 20:27:32) * (858591) anaconda setting invalid system locale xx.UTF-8 not xx_YY.UTF-8 (tflink, 20:27:42) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858591 (tflink, 20:27:44) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:27:47) * AGREED: 858591 - RejectedBlocker (Beta), AcceptedNTH (Beta), AcceptedBlocker (final) - While this does hit the F18 final release criterion "All critical path actions on release-blocking desktop environments should correctly display all sufficiently complete translations available for use", it doesn't hit any beta criteria and is rejected as a blocker for beta. Accepted as NTH for beta due to nastiness. Accepted as a final blocker due to violation of previo (tflink, 20:35:37) * (860430) RFE: dual boot support in newui (tflink, 20:35:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860430 (tflink, 20:35:50) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:35:50) * AGREED: 860431 - While the name suggests that this is just a dual-booting issue, there have been issues in the past where we have seen issues when unable to select the bootloader location. Will revisit once there has been more chance to find the specific problems from F16 (tflink, 20:39:39) * (860276) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 10: ordinal not in range(128) (tflink, 20:39:49) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860276 (tflink, 20:39:52) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:39:55) * AGREED: 860276 - There is very little data on how often this happens and when it happens. Will revisit once there is more data on this bug (tflink, 20:44:55) * Open Floor (tflink, 20:45:25) * next F18 beta blocker review meeting will be 2012-10-3 @ 16:00 UTC (tflink, 20:49:09) Meeting ended at 20:51:36 UTC. 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