The MATE desktop web site has install packages to add MATE to Fedora 16 or 17. Lo and behold and deja vu, there it is, legacy Gnome 2 desktop. I tried compiz but that didn't work. That said, I think I've become accustomed to Xfce. Would be nice to get workspaces on a cube now and then. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R caf@xxxxxxxx www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software" 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 503-614-0430 -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test