============================================== #fedora-bugzappers: f18-alpha-blocker-review-6 ============================================== Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-09-05/f18-alpha-blocker-review-6.2012-09-05-16.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-09-05/f18-alpha-blocker-review-6.2012-09-05-16.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-09-05/f18-alpha-blocker-review-6.2012-09-05-16.00.log.html Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:00:16) * ACTION: tflink to change announcement to use #fedora-qa instead of #fedora-bugzappers for the next blocker review meeting (tflink, 16:05:55) * Introduction (tflink, 16:07:10) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:07:20) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:07:28) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:07:28) * The bugs up for review today can be found at: (tflink, 16:07:44) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:07:44) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:07:53) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:07:54) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:07:54) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:07:54) * Up for review today are: (tflink, 16:08:10) * 18 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:08:13) * 15 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:08:13) * 3 Proposed NTH (tflink, 16:08:13) * 4 Accepted NTH (tflink, 16:08:14) * (851212) error: cannot invoke setopt() - perform() is currently running (tflink, 16:09:19) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851212 (tflink, 16:09:22) * Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 16:09:25) * AGREED: 851212 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Doesn't seem to be wide-spread enough to justify blocker status but is nasty enough to justify NTH status. (tflink, 16:11:50) * (853985) KDM autologin does not work on Live (tflink, 16:11:58) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853985 (tflink, 16:11:58) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 16:11:58) * AGREED: 853985 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criteria for KDE live spin - "When booting a system installed without a graphical environment, or when using a correct configuration setting to cause an installed system to boot in non-graphical mode, the system should boot to a state where it is possible to log in through at least one of the default virtual consoles" (tflink, 16:20:05) * (853415) firstboot isn't installed and run during first boot (tflink, 16:22:17) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853415 (tflink, 16:22:17) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:22:17) * AGREED: 853415 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "In most cases, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account" (tflink, 16:24:48) * (853609) liveinstaller crashes when selecting non english language (tflink, 16:24:58) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853609 (tflink, 16:25:01) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:25:04) * AGREED: 853609 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion when selecting some non-english languages - "The installer must boot and run on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media when written to an optical disc and when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods" (tflink, 16:30:27) * (852875) firstboot's service file needs updating for replacement of prefdm.service with per-dm services and systemd presets (tflink, 16:30:41) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852875 (tflink, 16:30:44) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 16:30:46) * AGREED: 852875 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "In most cases, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account" (tflink, 16:34:14) * (853238) Yum tries to size check the DVD when getting a local file (tflink, 16:34:23) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853238 (tflink, 16:34:26) * Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 16:34:28) * AGREED: 853238 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: 'When booting from a DVD ISO image, the installer must be able to use the DVD local package source options' (tflink, 16:35:49) * (853253) anaconda (textmode) crashes with unexpected input (tflink, 16:36:10) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853253 (tflink, 16:36:10) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 16:36:10) * AGREED: 853253 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using the text, graphical and VNC installation interfaces" (tflink, 16:44:27) * (853576) Rescue mode fails in F18 Alpha TC4 - "cannot import name expandLangs" (tflink, 16:44:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853576 (tflink, 16:44:40) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 16:44:42) * AGREED: 853576 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: " The rescue mode of the installer must start successfully and be able to detect and mount an existing default installation" (tflink, 16:47:44) * (853510) Libreport attempts to submit an empty file to RHBZ on anaconda crash (tflink, 16:47:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853510 (tflink, 16:47:57) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:47:59) * AGREED: 853510 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to report failures to Bugzilla and local disk, with appropriate information included" (tflink, 16:49:48) * (853899) offline installation can't be done without network connection (tflink, 16:49:58) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853899 (tflink, 16:50:01) * Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 16:50:04) * AGREED: 853899 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete package installation with the default package set for each supported installation method" (tflink, 16:52:52) * (854209) The remote software origin name was not found (tflink, 16:53:05) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854209 (tflink, 16:53:05) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:53:05) * AGREED: 854209 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops" (tflink, 16:58:11) * (854471) anaconda stop at the "Error checking storage configuration" (tflink, 16:58:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854471 (tflink, 16:58:25) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:58:28) * AGREED: 854471 - While this sounds like something that could be a problem, there is not enough information on the causes or steps taken to reproduce this issue to make a decision on blocker status at this time. Will re-visit when there is more data. (tflink, 17:02:42) * (854688) Live installation hangs with some languages (tflink, 17:02:51) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854688 (tflink, 17:02:51) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:02:51) * AGREED: 854688 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional volation of the F18 alpha release criterion for some non-english languages: "The installer must boot and run on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media when written to an optical disc and when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods" (tflink, 17:07:15) * (854203) F18 uses the same desktop background as F17 (tflink, 17:07:27) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854203 (tflink, 17:07:28) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:07:28) * AGREED: 854203 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The default desktop background must be different from that of the two previous stable releases" (tflink, 17:10:02) * (854512) root has a password on Live (tflink, 17:10:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854512 (tflink, 17:10:13) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:10:13) * AGREED: 854512 - RejectedBlocker - It appears that if this is a problem, it doesn't show up every time. If it turns out to be a regularly re-occuring issue, please resubmit as a blocker (tflink, 17:16:53) * (853988) liveinstall: kernel panic - unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) (tflink, 17:17:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853988 (tflink, 17:17:06) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:17:08) * AGREED: 853988 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "In most cases, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account" (tflink, 17:20:50) * (853587) Patch for "fix QtScript JIT crash (QTBUG-23871, kde#297661)" applied in qt-4.8.2-5 causes frequent segmentation faults (tflink, 17:21:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853587 (tflink, 17:21:06) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:21:08) * AGREED: 853587 - AcceptedNTH - We need more information on the severity/frequency of the crash and testing of the fix before deciding on blocker status. However, releasing alpha with a frequently crashing KDE spin is not desired and thus, accepted as NTH for F18 alpha (tflink, 17:28:26) * (835601) libparted crashes in mac_read on cheapo USB drive (tflink, 17:28:35) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=835601 (tflink, 17:28:36) * Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 17:28:36) * AGREED: 835601 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the following F18 alpha release criterion for a non-insignificant number of USB devices: "The installer must boot and run on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media when written to an optical disc and when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported me (tflink, 17:39:24) * (849731) pungi needs new magic file location for powerpc ISOs (tflink, 17:39:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849731 (tflink, 17:39:59) * Proposed NTH, ON_QA (tflink, 17:39:59) * AGREED: 849731 - AcceptedNTH - This is a blocker for PPC, making it an NTH overall. However, it would be good to see some more testing of the new build with non-ppc arches before allowing it to be pushed to stable or used in an alpha TC/RC (tflink, 17:44:05) * (844463) Xorg blows assertion at startup: Xorg: privates.c:560: dixPrivatesSize: Assertion `!screen_specific_private[type]' failed. (tflink, 17:44:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=844463 (tflink, 17:44:17) * Proposed NTH, VERIFIED (tflink, 17:44:19) * AGREED: 844463 - AcceptedNTH - Virt bugs are beta, so this is not a blocker but there is a lot of VM testing going on for alpha and a working default graphics adapter would be preferred (tflink, 17:47:43) * (852845) ship systemd preset for lightdm (tflink, 17:47:51) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852845 (tflink, 17:47:51) * Proposed NTH, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:47:51) * AGREED: 852845 - AcceptedNTH - Prevents lightdm from stating, which is the DM for XFCE. As a non-primary DE, any blocker there becomes an NTH (tflink, 17:53:04) * (848641) Fedora 18 Alpha TC2 fails to boot from USB stick (written by livecd-iso-to-disk) (tflink, 18:00:38) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848641 (tflink, 18:00:41) * Accepted Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 18:00:43) * fixed lorax was used for pretc6, will be used for TC6. This needs testing before moving to VERIFIED (tflink, 18:04:16) * (851295) splitsep doesn't correctly handle variables with escaped spaces (tflink, 18:10:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851295 (tflink, 18:10:06) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:10:09) * still needs testing. if a dd'd USB iso has inst.stage2=hd:LABEL= and works, this can be moved to VERIFIED (tflink, 18:12:10) * (850775) display managers aren't enabled after installation (tflink, 18:12:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=850775 (tflink, 18:12:47) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:12:48) * this is probably fixed enough for alpha but still needs testing with TC6/RC1. If there are remaining issues after that testing, they may be split off into another bug (tflink, 18:19:45) * (852403) PolicyKit authentication in Fedora 18 Alpha TC3 results in selinux denial (tflink, 18:24:11) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852403 (tflink, 18:24:14) * Accepted Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:24:17) * tested in TC5, seems to be fixed (tflink, 18:27:15) * a little more testing would be nice before moving the bug to VERIFIED (tflink, 18:28:00) * (849997) anaconda freezed after boot (tflink, 18:29:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849997 (tflink, 18:29:37) * Accepted Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 18:29:37) * AGREED: 849997 - There is a fix for this, but it's not trivial to test. Close the bug once the next anaconda version is pushed to stable, re-open if this bug becomes a problem again (tflink, 18:32:37) * (854586) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory (tflink, 18:35:57) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854586 (tflink, 18:35:57) * Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 18:35:57) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=610009 (kparal, 18:37:23) * AGREED: 854586 - AcceptedNTH - Editing any connection in anaconda causes a crash due to moved binary in nm. Waiting for more information before making a decision on blocker status (tflink, 18:41:40) * (853788) anaconda (text mode) set root password appears to not to work (tflink, 18:44:38) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853788 (tflink, 18:44:41) * Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 18:44:43) * AGREED: 853788 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "When booting a system installed without a graphical environment, or when using a correct configuration setting to cause an installed system to boot in non-graphical mode, the system should boot to a state where it is possible to log in through at least one of the default virtual consoles" (tflink, 18:46:43) * Open Floor (tflink, 18:48:53) * ACTION: tflink to check on whether spin-kickstarts is up to date enough for alpha (tflink, 18:57:45) * Fedora 18 alpha blocker review meeting #7 will be on 2012-09-12 @ 16:00 in #fedora-qa if alpha slips again (tflink, 19:00:45) Meeting ended at 19:03:59 UTC. 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