F18 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #5 minutes

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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-08-29/f18-alpha-blocker-review-5.2012-08-29-16.00.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-08-29/f18-alpha-blocker-review-5.2012-08-29-16.00.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-08-29/f18-alpha-blocker-review-5.2012-08-29-16.00.log.html


Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (tflink, 16:00:21)

* Introduction  (tflink, 16:05:51)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 16:05:58)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 16:06:12)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 16:06:12)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 16:06:21)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    16:06:21)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    16:06:32)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:06:32)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:06:32)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:06:32)
  * up for review today are:  (tflink, 16:07:09)
  * 6 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 16:14:25)
  * 17 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 16:14:25)
  * 2 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 16:14:26)
  * 4 Accepted NTH  (tflink, 16:14:26)

* (849982) The default Fedora 18 artwork refers to the previous release
  in F18 Alpha TC3  (tflink, 16:19:13)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849982   (tflink,
    16:19:17)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 16:19:19)
  * AGREED: 849982 - RejectedBlocker - Does not violate any of the F18
    alpha release criteria (when including proposed criteria adjustments
    about to hit the official list)  (tflink, 16:24:38)

* (851212) error: cannot invoke setopt() - perform() is currently
  running  (tflink, 16:24:45)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851212   (tflink,
    16:24:48)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 16:24:51)
  * AGREED: 851212 - We're still waiting on more data to see if this is
    a blocker or not. The bug has been moved to MODIFIED but it's not
    clear what exactly has been changed. Will re-evaluate at the next
    review meeting.  (tflink, 16:27:59)

* (852238) anaconda-widgets needs to be added to fedora-live-base.ks
  (tflink, 16:28:07)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852238   (tflink,
    16:28:10)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 16:28:12)
  * AGREED: 852238 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion for live media: "The installer must boot (if
    appropriate) and run on all primary architectures, with all system
    firmware types that are common on those architectures, from default
    live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media when written to an
    optical disc and when written to a USB stick with at least one of
    the officially supported methods"  (tflink, 16:30:21)

* (852240) yum doesn't merge/generate comps environment data  (tflink,
  16:30:31)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852240   (tflink,
    16:30:31)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 16:30:31)
  * AGREED: 852240 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion: "When booting from a DVD ISO image, the installer
    must be able to use the DVD local package source options"  (tflink,
    16:32:43)

* (849997) anaconda freezed after boot  (tflink, 16:32:55)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849997   (tflink,
    16:32:55)
  * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 16:32:56)
  * AGREED: 849997 - AcceptedBlocker - Accepted as a blocker for F18
    alpha due to violation of the following F18 alpha release criterion:
    "The installer must be able to report failures to Bugzilla and local
    disk, with appropriate information included"  (tflink, 16:35:46)

* (852403) using kdesu in Fedora 18 Alpha TC3 results into selinux
  denial  (tflink, 16:35:53)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852403   (tflink,
    16:35:56)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 16:35:58)
  * AGREED: 852403 - Possible dupe of #849990, will re-evaluate if it
    turns out to be a different bug.  (tflink, 16:43:33)

* (851653) NTPconfigError: Cannot replace the old config with the new
  one (Invalid cross-device link)  (tflink, 16:44:44)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851653   (tflink,
    16:44:46)
  * Proposed NTH, POST  (tflink, 16:44:49)
  * AGREED: 851653 - AcceptedNTH - Causes crashes when the temp file
    used during installation and the destination are on different
    filesystems. Was deemed to be high enough potential for crashing to
    accept as NTH for F18 alpha  (tflink, 16:48:35)

* (851178) yum doesn't prefer private top priority repository  (tflink,
  16:49:01)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851178   (tflink,
    16:49:02)
  * Proposed NTH, ON_QA  (tflink, 16:49:02)
  * AGREED: 851178 - RejectedNTH - While an annoyance for some, not
    enough people are affected to justify taking a yum and urlgrabber
    fix post freeze.  (tflink, 16:57:35)

* (841451) polkitd doesn't start in rawhide  (tflink, 16:58:15)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841451   (tflink,
    16:58:15)
  * Proposed Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 16:58:15)
  * LINK: http://nooooooooooooooo.com/   (Martix, 16:58:33)
  * AGREED: 841451 - From later comments, it seems pretty clear that
    this doesn't depend on #849990. Remove dependency which makes this
    not an alpha blocker.  (tflink, 17:04:42)

* (848641) Fedora 18 Alpha TC2 fails to boot from USB stick (written by
  livecd-iso-to-disk)  (tflink, 17:05:15)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848641   (tflink,
    17:05:18)
  * Accepted Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:05:21)
  * 848641 is for l-i-t-d and is waiting on 851295 before anyh more
    progress can be made  (tflink, 17:14:42)
  * we need to file a new bug for dd'd usb isos not working, progress
    also blocked by #851295  (tflink, 17:15:23)
  * dracut patch for 851295 is in haraldh's github repo, but not
    upstream master  (tflink, 17:18:23)

* (851274) Traceback during install - mount: /dev/sr0 is already mounted
  or /run/install/repo busy  (tflink, 17:20:07)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851274   (tflink,
    17:20:10)
  * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 17:20:12)
  * fix has been submitted, waiting on new anaconda build in order to
    test fix  (tflink, 17:21:24)

* (849990) Apper: Authentization failed when trying to install updates
  (tflink, 17:21:33)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849990   (tflink,
    17:21:36)
  * Accepted Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:21:39)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=852403#c3 seems
    relevant here  (adamw, 17:22:51)
  * same issue as #852403  (tflink, 17:24:24)
  * 852403 is a bit cleaner, mark 849990 a dupe of 852403  (tflink,
    17:25:55)
  * transfer AcceptedBlocker to 852403  (tflink, 17:26:07)

* (851220) EFI syslinux contains wrong path to kernel pair  (tflink,
  17:27:33)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851220   (tflink,
    17:27:34)
  * Accepted Blocker, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:27:34)
  * patch has been submitted for lorax -
    https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/anaconda-patches/2012-August/000763.html
    (tflink, 17:28:25)
  * depends on 851295  (tflink, 17:29:44)
  * LINK: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=350159
    (adamw, 17:30:45)
  * find out whether there is a lorax build with the associated patch
    (tflink, 17:33:46)
  * it's still a little unclear which USB related installer bugs
    correspond to which issues but there's not much that can be done
    until we have a new dracut build to fix 851295  (tflink, 17:37:31)
  * 851220, 848641 and the bug that will be filed for dd'd iso issues
    are all related in various ways  (tflink, 17:38:45)

* (850775) display managers aren't enabled after installation  (tflink,
  17:39:09)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=850775   (tflink,
    17:39:10)
  * Accepted Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 17:39:10)
  * GDM does start post-install but all other DMs aren't enabled
    post-install  (tflink, 17:48:33)
  * still waiting on decision as to how exactly this should be fixed and
    changes to packages/spins  (tflink, 17:48:57)
  * still waiting on decision as to how exactly this should be fixed
    (tflink, 17:49:39)
  * one potential solution is mentioned in
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=850775#c8  (tflink,
    17:53:02)
  * it sounds like the DM packages would be the best place for the
    default-overriding preset files  (tflink, 17:53:34)

* (851295) splitsep doesn't correctly handle variables with escaped
  spaces  (tflink, 17:55:28)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851295   (tflink,
    17:55:31)
  * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 17:55:34)
  * patch submitted upstream, waiting for new build  (tflink, 17:55:57)
  * this bug blocks progress on several USB install media related bugs
    (tflink, 17:56:32)
  * dracut maintainer has been pinged to request new build  (tflink,
    17:57:48)

* (849250) Not setting up a root password makes non-desktop installs
  impossible to access  (tflink, 17:58:30)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849250   (tflink,
    17:58:33)
  * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED  (tflink, 17:58:35)
  * a fix has been submitted upstream, waiting for new anaconda build
    (tflink, 17:58:47)
  * the fix for F18 alpha may not live past F18 alpha - the anaconda
    team is looking at other options which may replace this method of
    password setting at a later date  (tflink, 17:59:21)

* (851207) DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:
  Method "Get" with signature "ss" on interface
  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist  (tflink, 18:00:25)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851207   (tflink,
    18:00:28)
  * Accepted Blocker, NEW  (tflink, 18:00:31)
  * waiting for more triage, possibly related to other IPv6 issues
    (tflink, 18:01:21)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 18:03:16)
  * Fedora 18 alpha blocker review #6 will be on 2012-09-05 @ 16:00 UTC
    if alpha slips again  (tflink, 18:06:32)

Meeting ended at 18:08:59 UTC.




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