On Wed, 2012-08-15 at 17:29 -0400, John.Florian@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > From: Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > This is probably a terrible time to try preupgrade. It gets no > major > > > > love until Beta, usually. If your goal is a working install of > F18, > > > your > > > > best option at present is a yum update from F17, following the > > > > directions at > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ > > > > Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 . > > > > > > Oh, well that would be easier for me since it stays more in my > > > familiar realm. (Preupgrade looks neat, but my norm is fresh > installs > > > + puppet.) Should this wisdom (both waiting until Beta and that > link) > > > be incorporated into > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/ > > Branched#Yum_update_from_previous_official_release? > > > > Probably not. Actually I should have written that a bit differently: > > it's a *good* thing from a QA perspective that you're trying > preupgrade > > now and finding the bugs. We want them found early. It's only a bad > > thing from the point of view that it has about 0% chance of > succeeding. > > =) Even if you get the preupgrade bit working, I believe newUI > anaconda > > does not actually implement upgrades yet, so there is no chance the > > anaconda bit of the process will work. > > > Cool. Let us know if you find any QA process documentation missing - > I > > think we cover it pretty well though :) > > It is covered pretty well. For some reason though, when I first > sought out pages telling me how to get on rawhide (because 18 hadn't > been branched just yet), I never stumbled onto the > Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum page. I mostly got a rawhide box based on > intuition, but that page clearly documents some things I hadn't > thought about. My suggestion for incorporating this link into the > Releases/Branched page was primarily based on the impression that the > former covered that specific topic more thoroughly. Thus I kind of > envisioned something akin to: > > """ > Yum update from previous official release > This method is available but generally not recommended. Anaconda can > make changes that are outside what the packaging system can normally > deal with. You may also run into dependency problems which could take > time to untangle. You may also need to upgrade from the immediately > previous release (e.g. install Fedora 12, then Fedora 14 Branched, not > jump directly from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14 Branched). Be prepared to > wipe your system and re-install from scratch if things do not go > well. > > If you decide to go this route anyway, please see > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum > """ > > Also, that paragraph is just plain confusing (to me, at least). After > trying to parse it for a while, I think it's trying to say: You may > *first* need to upgrade *to* the immediately previous release (e.g. > install/upgrade to Fedora *13*, then Fedora 14 Branched, not jump > directly from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14 Branched). Thanks for the feedback. I actually recently revised some very similar text on the Releases/Rawhide page; I hope it's clearer now (please do take a look and let me know what you think). I'll try and find a few minutes to apply similar changes to the Releases/Branched page - I wasn't aware it had similar text. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
