On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 14:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 18:02 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 07/27/2012 02:14 PM, Petr Schindler wrote: > > > It is about discussion to accept this change. If there will be lot of > > > opinions against this change, we will let it be as it is and anaconda > > > will have to make their best to bring rescue mod. We can also change > > > this criterion. It's on discussion. Note that those changes are > > > hopefully only for F18. In F19 there should be everything back. > > > > So what no text mode and no rescue mode this release? > > > > From the looks of it we should just delay the new anaconda for F19 and > > re-use the release we used for F17 . > > > > This topic should be added to the meeting agenda and voted upon. > > The inclusion of newUI in itself is a Feature; the correct way to get it > delayed, if we decided we want that, would be to bring it up with FESCo > (by filing a FESCo ticket asking them to look at it). A vote of QA alone > isn't sufficient to mandate the removal of a feature. > > The lack of rescue mode in a final release would be a bit worrying, I > agree. On this topic: the feature page explicitly states that there will be no text interface for F18 - "Finally, there will not be any available text UI in the first Fedora with the new graphical UI. This is simply due to a matter of time and manpower - there's not enough time to design and implement a second interface at the same time. We are planning on having this finished up for the next Fedora release, though. " The feature was voted through by FESCo with that text included. So we can take that as an implicit approval by FESCo for releasing F18 without a text interface for the installer, and it would therefore make sense for us to waive criteria involving text install mode. However, the feature page does not mention any other missing features - rescue mode, or any others. So if we're concerned about missing features besides text mode, we should communicate this to anaconda team and FESCo quickly, before newui is merged into Rawhide; once that happens it gets very difficult to reject newui. We should clarify with anaconda team whether rescue mode is expected to be in place for final, and if there are any other major missing features that have not yet been discussed. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
