Have made some attempt but am left with just advanced, and a couple of spare errors, and a key-press to continue. Can some one tell me how to permanently get rid of "advanced" for non-gui boots. it adds another layer of confusion if kernel=0 doesn't complete boot, using virsh start --console some rawhide\branched guest and prevent grub2 updates from changing it it's in /etc/grub.d/10_linux I believe. Bash scripting being one of thing, I'll eventually get to, currently might as well be looking up a Beefy Miracles in it's raw organic state. I -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test