To expand on the subject, audacious used to have (in F15) a play line that with an indicator in the play line of the song where the music was playing. And the arrow keys would move the song 10 seconds forward or back. Clicking in the play line would move the play point to the click location. Dragging the marker would also move the play point. All of that seems to be gone on the F17, updated current with updates-testing. I'm using lxde with openbox as the window manager, but I have all the gnome shell stuff installed. It won't run on my hardware, but I still can use parts of it. Is the fact I'm not running Gnome shell the cause of the problem? Or did audacious decide that this is no longer a useful feature and remove it? Thanks for any insight. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test