================================================== #fedora-bugzappers: f17-final-blocker-bug-review-1 ================================================== Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-04-20/f17-final-blocker-bug-review-1.2012-04-20-17.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-04-20/f17-final-blocker-bug-review-1.2012-04-20-17.01.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-04-20/f17-final-blocker-bug-review-1.2012-04-20-17.01.log.html Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 17:01:06) * Introduction (tflink, 17:15:26) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:15:41) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:16:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 17:16:43) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:17:05) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:17:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:17:16) * 31 proposed blockers (tflink, 17:17:37) * 5 accepted blockers (tflink, 17:17:37) * 10 proposed NTH (tflink, 17:17:37) * (755335) Shutting down while auto-updating breaks the system (tflink, 17:21:08) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=755335 (tflink, 17:21:08) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:21:08) * AGREED: - 755335 - AcceptedBlocker - The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops (tflink, 17:33:55) * (810530) PackageKit locks out yum way too often & for too long (tflink, 17:34:08) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810530 (tflink, 17:34:08) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:34:08) * AGREED: - 810530 - RejectedBlocker RejectedNTH - While an annoyance, this doesn't hit any of the F17 release criteria and doesn't seem wise to take as an NTH fix (tflink, 17:40:11) * (737508) grub2 cannot install when /boot is md and first partition starts at sector 63 (tflink, 17:41:38) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737508 (tflink, 17:41:41) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:41:44) * AGREED: - 737508 - RejectedBlocker - While this bug does affect dual-booting with windows - it's using a non-standard partition layout and was deemed too much of a corner case to take this as a blocker (tflink, 17:53:08) * (748209) KeyError: '/boot/efi': anaconda will try to do an EFI install if there is an existing EFI system partition but it has not been set as /boot/efi (tflink, 17:53:49) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748209 (tflink, 17:53:52) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:53:54) * AGREED: - 748209 - RejectedBlocker - This is too much of a corner case to block release for. Making a mistake in custom partitioning is required in order to hit this and it only affects EFI systems with pre-existing installs (tflink, 18:00:01) * (784828) boot option 'noselinux' doesn't work (tflink, 18:00:12) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=784828 (tflink, 18:00:12) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:00:12) * AGREED: - 784828 - RejectedBlocker - There are no release criteria around being able to install w/o SELinux and using 'selinux=0' is an acceptable workaround (tflink, 18:07:18) * (790348) If specified repo= doesn't contain package repository, fall back to default online repos (tflink, 18:07:32) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790348 (tflink, 18:07:35) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:07:38) * AGREED: - 790348 - AcceptedBlocker - It must be possible to install by booting the installation kernel directly, including via PXE, and correctly specifying a remote source for the installer itself, using whichever protocols are required to work for package retrieval at the current phase (Alpha, Beta, Final). This must work if the remote source is not a complete repository but contains only the files necessary for the installer itself to run. (tflink, 18:13:17) * (800609) maximum window size is 800x600, should be full screen (tflink, 18:13:23) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800609 (tflink, 18:13:26) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:13:28) * 800609 has been fixed and closed - it doesn't need to be evaluated as a blocker any more (tflink, 18:21:40) * (804846) dracut fails to retrieve network kickstart file, possibly PXE-specific, timing issue (tflink, 18:22:13) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804846 (tflink, 18:22:17) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:22:19) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options (adamw, 18:27:15) * AGREED: - 804846 - We need more data on this before voting on it - it would be nice if the reporters could all test with as close to the same setup as possible (tflink, 18:34:23) * (806931) "network --device link --activate" in kickstart inside initrd.img breaks anaconda (tflink, 18:34:34) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806931 (tflink, 18:34:37) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:34:39) * AGREED: - 806931 - RejectedBlocker - This does not hit any of the release criteria as currently written - if the criteria change to make this a blocker, please re-propose (tflink, 18:46:05) * (811242) PXE and repo=nfs or repo=nfsiso freezes installer (tflink, 18:47:46) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811242 (tflink, 18:47:46) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:47:46) * AGREED: - 811242 - AcceptedBlocker - It must be possible to install by booting the installation kernel directly, including via PXE, and correctly specifying a remote source for the installer itself, using whichever protocols are required to work for package retrieval at the current phase (Alpha, Beta, Final). This must work if the remote source is not a complete repository but contains only the files necessary for the installer itself to run. (tflink, 18:52:23) * (814643) "Words" corrupting (all) odt documents. (tflink, 18:52:36) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814643 (tflink, 18:52:37) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:52:37) * AGREED: - 814643 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F17 final release criteria "All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu items" for KDE (tflink, 18:58:32) * (802381) Port Printers panel to FirewallD1 API (tflink, 18:58:37) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802381 (tflink, 18:58:39) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:58:42) * AGREED: - 802381 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any release criteria for F17 and could be fixed with an update (tflink, 19:03:05) * (748920) Setting back time breaks boot (tflink, 19:03:08) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748920 (tflink, 19:03:11) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:03:13) * AGREED: - 748920 - We need more information and opinions from devel before making a decision on this since it's not a clear violation of criteria but is still an ugly failure mode (tflink, 19:13:33) * (808759) firewall-applet - Icon could not be loaded (tflink, 19:13:54) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808759 (tflink, 19:13:54) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:13:54) * AGREED: - 808759 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F17 final release criterion: "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in common use" (tflink, 19:20:18) * (814696) When installing, after reboot only black screen with "X" cursor shows up instead of firstboot (tflink, 19:20:35) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814696 (tflink, 19:20:38) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:20:40) * AGREED: - 814696 - We need more information and re-testing on this before deciding on blocker status (tflink, 19:25:48) * (814220) Logomarks should be removed and replaced with text (tflink, 19:26:12) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814220 (tflink, 19:26:12) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:26:12) * AGREED: - 814220 - RejectedBlocker - The blocker process does not cover legal issues (tflink, 19:30:57) * (803434) [swell-foop] Help -> Content function is broken (tflink, 19:31:10) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803434 (tflink, 19:31:11) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:31:11) * AGREED: - 803434 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F17 final release criterion: "All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use." (tflink, 19:35:18) * (799667) [abrt] gnome-settings-daemon-3.3.90.1-1.fc17: g_logv: Process /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP) (tflink, 19:35:30) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799667 (tflink, 19:35:33) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:35:36) * AGREED: - 799667 - AcceptedNTH - It's not clear whether this affects enough HW to be a blocker but there is a fix that needs to be applied and is a bit nasty to hit right after install (tflink, 19:49:41) * (791130) segfault in _clutter_actor_finish_queue_redraw (tflink, 19:49:49) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=791130 (tflink, 19:49:49) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:49:49) * AGREED: - 791130 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any release critera or precedents and therefore is not a blocker. Re-propose as NTH and it will be re-evaluated if not fixed with new update (tflink, 20:12:24) * (804835) Failed to install GRUB2 into boot partition (tflink, 20:12:56) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 (tflink, 20:12:56) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:12:56) * AGREED: - 804835 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't violate any of the F17 release criteria and is a non-standard method of installation - a workaround is available. (tflink, 20:16:41) * (802106) ipw2200 bg doesn't work in f17 (tflink, 20:16:48) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802106 (tflink, 20:16:48) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:16:48) * ACTION: tflink to find better numbers on how many affected installs are in smolt (tflink, 20:21:22) * AGREED: - 802106 - we still need data on how many ipw2200 installs are registered in smolt - will vote once we have that data (tflink, 20:22:23) * (796479) firewalld conflicts with libvirt's default network (tflink, 20:22:32) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796479 (tflink, 20:22:32) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 20:22:32) * AGREED: - 796479 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 beta release criterion "The release must be able host virtual guest instances of the same release, using Fedora's current preferred virtualization technology" (tflink, 20:27:05) * (813905) livecd-iso-to-disk does not create USB correctly from a DVD image (tflink, 20:27:18) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813905 (tflink, 20:27:21) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 20:27:24) * AGREED: - 813905 - AcceptedBlocker - The documentation needs to cover use cases that require --format and there needs to be a warning if the process is going to fail. The approved blocker does NOT cover any claims of lost functionality - that would need to be filed in another bz (tflink, 20:35:11) * (799132) numastat is written in perl (tflink, 20:35:52) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799132 (tflink, 20:35:52) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 20:35:53) * AGREED: - 799132 - RejectedBlocker - As written, this bug does not hit any of the F17 release criteria (tflink, 20:40:31) * (813548) pulseaudio terminates very often (tflink, 20:40:53) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813548 (tflink, 20:40:53) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:40:53) * AGREED: - 813548 - There haven't been enough reports of this to justify taking as a blocker - will wait another week to see if there are more reports before deciding on blocker status. It would be nice to see more testing on this (tflink, 20:46:16) * (804216) pungi doesn't use yum transactions, which is a problem with langpacks (tflink, 20:46:22) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804216 (tflink, 20:46:24) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:46:27) * AGREED: - 804216 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release criterion "All critical path actions on release-blocking desktop environments should correctly display all sufficiently complete translations available for use" (tflink, 20:47:46) * (799591) SELinux is preventing NetworkManager from 'read' access on the file /etc/sysctl.conf. (tflink, 20:48:35) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799591 (tflink, 20:48:38) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 20:48:40) * this was fixed in F17 but re-opened when the same bug showed up in F16 - will remove from consideration for F17 final blocker (tflink, 20:51:40) * (740280) /dev/live no longer exists (tflink, 20:51:51) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740280 (tflink, 20:51:51) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:51:51) * AGREED: - 740280 - This is not a blocker with the current release criteria but we feel that it should be if it is indeed impacting the ability to create persistent overlays for live images on USB. No status change WRT blocker status of this bug; will re-evaluate if new criterion is accepted (tflink, 21:07:30) * (798328) No rescue shell is offered for fsck errors (tflink, 21:07:44) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=798328 (tflink, 21:07:44) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 21:07:44) * AGREED: - 798328 - We need more information and testing on this before deciding on blocker status. While it could be fixed with an update, if you hit it before updating, that doesn't help. It would also be good to know if there are any possible workarounds for the issue (tflink, 21:23:44) * (802552) wlan0: WPA: Failed to get master session key from EAPOL state machines - key handshake aborted (tflink, 21:24:04) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802552 (tflink, 21:24:07) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 21:24:09) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811447 states "PEAP does not work" (adamw, 21:31:11) * AGREED: - 802552 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the F17 alpha release criterion "The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops" for PEAP wireless APs (tflink, 21:35:43) * (810161) Regression: change to 16 bpp by default in virt breaks KDE Plasma desktop (tflink, 21:35:55) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810161 (tflink, 21:35:58) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 21:36:01) * AGREED: - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This is a cosmetic polish issue that only hits certain VM configurations - it doesn't clearly violate any of the release criteria and doesn't seem severe enough to justify slipping release for but a well tested fix would be considered after final freeze (tflink, 21:53:17) * Open Floor (tflink, 21:58:58) * there were no objections to not reviewing the NTH this week. Will revisit next week (tflink, 21:59:20) * Next blocker review meeting will be on 2012-04-27 @ 17:00 UTC (tflink, 22:01:38) Meeting ended at 22:06:31 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tflink to find better numbers on how many affected installs are in smolt Action Items, by person ----------------------- * tflink * tflink to find better numbers on how many affected installs are in smolt * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (441) * adamw (309) * brunowolff (77) * nirik (16) * Octayn (12) * dgilmore (9) * fenrus02 (8) * zodbot (5) * satellit_ (5) * zaza224_ (2) * satellit_Tris55R (2) * rbergeron (1) * warren (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot
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