On 04/17/2012 11:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:51 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: >> On 17 April 2012 12:20, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Frankly, when I found VNC being blocked was inhibiting my beta >>> validation testing, I couldn't make head nor tail of the firewalld >>> command line stuff so I just turned it off and went back to the static >>> firewall. Progress! >> Same here. I'm now just running without a firewall as I couldn't >> figure out the magic incantation to Make It Work(tm). >> >> I'm amazed how it's installed on Fedora 17 by default and so broken / >> unfinished. Surely there was a feature page for this? > There was, and a long-running FESCo debate about whether to accept the > feature. For the latter, see the FESCo meeting logs from around Alpha to > Beta time (it got accepted as a feature quite late). For the former, see > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/firewalld-default . The > description of the feature states "system-config-firewall in it's > current form will also be replaced", but provides no more detail. It > links to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD , which states "The > configuration tool firewall-config is the main configuration tool for > the firewall daemon." and lists, under the Fedora 17 entry in > 'Development Phases', "Finalize firewall-applet and firewall-config " - > clearly, that didn't actually happen. > > twoerner's statement that firewall-config isn't done yet is to be found > at > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-March/164865.html . > I don't think we've had an update since then. > > firewall-applet appears to exist, but I'm somewhat confused as to > exactly what it's supposed to achieve. I'm not sure if it's working > entirely as intended in GNOME Shell. I am going to retest in the morning, nearly midnight now, but I think this is what happened earlier today. First, I didn't know firewalld was the default firewall (who reads release notes? :-) ). So, when I wanted to make a change I noticed that system-config-firewall wasn't installed. So, I installed and then was met with the error message "firewalld is running use firewall-config". So I tried finding that but failed...for obvious reasons. But I did find firewall-applet but couldn't get it to do much of anything under KDE other than sit on my panel and offer some options that didn't do anything. I wanted to try it in GNOME. But when I logged out it would go back to the login screen. I had the login background and a spinning disk... A reboot didn't fix it and in my frustration I just reinstalled. Also going to try the new F17 Beta DVD. Hope there is an install option to opt out of firewalld. If nothing is done prior to formal release I think it will be fun on the mailing list. Better than GNOME 3, and better than systemd. :-) -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
