On Friday, April 13, 2012, 3:05:43 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 04/13/2012 12:25 PM, John Reiser wrote: >> On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: >>> Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the >>> user's session are now mounted in a user-specific directory. >> >> There's still a problem: cold-plugged media, or even warm-plugged media. >> Cold-plugged (before boot) should be mounted under /media as soon as udisks2 runs. >> Warm-plugged (after boot but before login) probably should be, too, >> although there's room for discussion regarding /media/<label> versus >> /run/media/$next_console_login/<label>, particularly for multi-seat operation >> (Plugable.com, etc.), but particularly including login on either text or graphical >> local console. >> >> However, they aren't recognized [mounted] at all (not even upon subsequent graphical >> login), and this is bad. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722712 >> where there is some argument whether udisks2 or gvfs should bear the blame. >> >> It can be handy to have a "permanently" mounted CD/DVD or USB2.0 flash device. >> > This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the > external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as > "/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in. > Phooey. It's worse. Think CD/DVD/USB shared via Samba. No one needs to be logged on in the pre-F17 scenario, but now things are totally broken. Deferring things until first logon only makes sense if there actually is a logon. That is an unwarranted design assumption - too many "it must be a single user desktop" assumptions/bias. Using Fedora as a small home network server just got more complex, and I smell incompatibilities coming with how folks using Fedora (or a later RHEL release) would tend to treat mounted media. With F16 I finally was able to use on-boot static addressing with NetworkManager on my Samba/DHCP/DNS small server. No more switching to to use the traditional Network service. Please keep things flexible to allow for these scenarios. Al -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test