RE: New criterion for updates.img using

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Good job guys. I just wonder why use the updates-testing repo in the first place? I realize "it's a beta".. but might as well just run rawhide at that point. Amirite?

Dan

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From: test-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:test-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adam Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:42 PM
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Subject: Re: New criterion for updates.img using

On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 14:58 +0100, Petr Schindler wrote:
> I've added new criterion to beta release criteria. Tha alpha criterion 
> has already been there (I proposed it in another thread). You can find 
> changes here [1].
> 
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria
> 
> On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 17:51 +0100, Petr Schindler wrote:
> > So I propose alpha criterion:
> > 
> > "The installer must be able to use an [[Anaconda/Updates|installer 
> > update image]] retrieved from HTTP url"
> > 
> > And beta criterion:
> > 
> > "The installer must be able to use an [[Anaconda/Updates|installer 
> > update image]] retrieved from removable media, remote installation 
> > source and HTTP url"
> > 
> > I think, that this should be beta for testing purposes. It will be 
> > easier to test patches, so it would be better if it worked earlier 
> > than later. But that's only my opinion. If you have something 
> > against it, please, reply to this thread.

At the emergency blocker review today, we (present - me, tflink, robatino, bcl, rbergeron, nirik) re-discussed this and came to a consensus that it should be a final criterion, not a Beta one. See the discussion here:

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-03/fedora-meeting.2012-04-03-23.08.log.html

starting at 23:18:35 .

Basically when it turned out both of these were broken in Beta RC2, no-one really thought it was serious enough to block the Beta release.
In practice, we almost always use http/ftp for updates.img retrieval when we're actually doing Alpha/Beta testing. We think it's worth making sure this works for final in the case when you need to deploy updates.img on non-network-connected machines, but it really doesn't seem critical for a Beta.

So we agreed to move the criterion to Final, and reject the two bugs as Beta blockers.

I'll update the criteria and the validation matrix template.

Thanks!
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Adam Williamson
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