2012/3/27 夜神 岩男 <supergiantpotato@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > --- On Tue, 2012/3/27, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> 2012/3/27 夜神 岩男 <supergiantpotato@xxxxxxxxxxx>: >> > >> > >> > --- On Tue, 2012/3/27, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Tom Horsley <horsley1953@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > This bug casually mentions that an app (swell-foop) menu has >> >> > moved from the app itself to the gnome-shell panel: >> >> > >> >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803430#c4 >> >> > >> >> > My reaction to this is "What in the $#@! is going on?!?". >> >> > >> >> > Is gnome 3 now being turned into ubuntu unity where >> >> > no apps have menu bars and you only discover them by >> >> > accident when you happen to mouse over the unity panel? >> >> >> >> No. >> >> >> >> > Does anyone understand the logic behind this apparent >> >> > wildly popular meme of hiding essential controls where >> >> > no one is ever likely to stumble across them? >> >> >> >> Application global actions (ones not tied to specific windows or for >> >> single window apps) can be optionally placed in the application menu >> >> by the app. >> >> >> >> https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu >> > >> > ...doesn't that literally mean "yes" ? >> >> No. >> > If you say so... but I'd like to point out that having a place where an application "might or might not" place some controls depending on a condition that is not obvious to the user makes me think this is some unneccessary and avoidable ambiguity in the interface, and I think that's what Tom was getting at. No that's not the purpose of the application menu. It is about splitting application specific controls away from window specific ones. Which makes a lot of sense to me. > Also, the Ctrl+Alt+TAB (the old Leftie Vulcan!) -> Navigate thing reminds me of why we used to have the Space Cadet keyboard, how it got that name, and why it was eventually ditched... See other mail ... suggest a specific shortcut and file a bug. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test