On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:22:38 +0000 (UTC) JB <jb.1234abcd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Tim Flink <tflink <at> redhat.com> writes: > > > > > This came up in the QA meeting on Monday and I've put together a > > proposal to create a minimal system as a trial. > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tflink/remote_installation_testing_proposal > > ... > > A virtual test system (also with access via Internet) is an excellent > idea. > > I hope that you can not only select an iso to create a private VM, > but then also will be allowed to "yum install|remove|..." on top of > it ? My initial thought was to provide post-install access to the machine for a pre-determined amount of time. After that time, the VM would be forcefully disconnected and destroyed whether the test was done or not. > If so, it would be good to have (actually you will need it as you > will see) some VM hosts system management entries to administer, > manage, clear, watch, debug VM hosts and Internet access and security > issues, some available to virtual test system admin, others to > users/testers. And that means you will be required to provide > 24/7/365 virtual test system coverage. You bring up a lot of good points here but I'm not sure that now is the time to be discussing all the complications that would come with a more permanent system. To borrow a phrase from a presentation I watched recently, I want to focus on making sure that we're "doing the right it" before looking at "doing it right". The trial system will not be as secure as a more permanent system would be and will require significant manual oversight/intervention during the trial period. However, I don't think that starting off by putting a month or two of development effort into an idea that may or may not be used would be the best use of resources. If we do end up making this a more permanent system, the trial system will either need to be completely thrown out or significantly changed to require less manual intervention and have fewer potential avenues for abuse. Tim
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