Just for grins I installed a script in rc.local to furiously run ps f -e in a loop until it sees a gnome-terminal process in the list and record the results in a log file. I got about 40 MB of ps listings (which is a lot to look at :-), but the most interesting bit I did see was this: 454 ? Ss 0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-kmsg-syslogd 463 ? Ss 0:00 /sbin/udevd 467 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 468 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 469 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 470 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 471 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 474 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 475 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 476 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 477 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 478 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 479 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 480 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 481 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 482 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 483 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 484 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 485 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 507 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 508 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 509 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 510 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 511 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 512 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 514 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 515 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 516 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 517 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 518 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 519 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 520 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 522 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 526 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 527 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 528 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 529 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 540 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 541 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 542 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 543 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 544 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 545 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 546 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 547 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 548 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 549 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 550 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 551 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 552 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 553 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 554 ? S 0:00 \_ /sbin/udevd 473 ? Ss 0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-readahead-collect Those udevd kids showed up for a long time during the ps loop. What the heck is udevd doing with all those kids, and could it be what is responsible for it taking 20 seconds to do a login after the initial boot? -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test