On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 22:05 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Never have seen this with F15. Only have read about it. > > Now it's hitting me badly everytime I boot F16 Alpha. Sometimes the > second login attempt succeeds, sometimes it doesn't and needs > a third attempt. > > gnome-shell-3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64 > > Where do I search for meaningful error messages? > Attached .xession-errors is flooded. > > [...] > > Updating the machine hasn't been easy and hasn't fixed the problem > either. Evolution dep breakage required me to update wildcard-groups of > packages or else I couldn't get xorg\* and other updates. Applying > the xorg\* updates required a reboot as a simple logout/login resulted > in severe screen corruption. > > [...] > > During the boot process (this is ATI Radeon graphics hardware), I often > lose the display and get a black screen with my monitor losing signal. > This has never happened with F14 and older, and only rarely with F15. > A workaround is to disable rhgb. GNOME devs refer to the screen as the 'fail whale'. It shows up if any key Shell component crashes in a loop. The key message to look for is "respawning too quickly", thus: (gnome-settings-daemon:1639): GnomeDesktop-WARNING **: could not get output property for DVI-0, rc: 15 (gnome-settings-daemon:1639): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_new_string: assertion `string != NULL' failed (gnome-settings-daemon:1639): color-plugin-WARNING **: failed to enumerate directory /home/misc16/.color/icc: No such file or directory g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting. gnome-session[1328]: WARNING: App 'gnome-settings-daemon.desktop' respawning too quickly so that's your problem there, I think. alt-f4 should get rid of the fail whale, and abrt-gui should be able to report the g-s-d crash. You're not running glibc 2.14.90-6 , are you? It's known to be broken. I ran it for a bit today and found g-s-d would crash. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test