Re: what do we do with user_home_t, and what more could we do with it?

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On 10/30/2013 11:43 AM, Dominick Grift wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-10-30 at 11:13 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> On 10/30/2013 10:11 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>> There is some concern on the devel mailing list about user-writable 
>>> directories in the default $PATH -- initially discussion about 
>>> ~/.local/bin as a hidden file, but now also out to ~/bin as well. I
>>> notice that these are home_bin_t. What does this do with the current
>>> policy, and what more could we do? (Particularly, a compromised
>>> application shouldn't be able to put binaries there, but a shell script
>>> or something like `pip install` probably _should_ be able to.)
>>> 
>> I responded on the other email on what these labels do.
>> 
>> Confining user space is difficult, since most people do not want stuff
>> to break and blocking apps from writing general places in the homedir is
>> difficult.
>> 
>> I think the future with confined applications where the application runs 
>> within a container and does not get direct access to the users homedir is
>> the only way to handle this.
> 
> Difficult: sure, impossible: i do not think so.
> 
> I have proof that it is possible, if one sets clear goals, boundaries, and
> realistic expectations.
> 
> I do not think containers are a silver bullet, and that MCS is a solution
> to all problems.
> 
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> 
Well in this case I would like to potentially run these container/apps with
Types like firefox_t and ooffice_t, but more generically with app_t where
app_t is not allowed to touch user_home_t.

But we are going far a field of this email chain, and we can revisit this when
we actually have applications containers.


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