I have a couple of systems I've just upgraded from FC15 to FC17. I installed setroubleshoot and setroubleshoot-server. FC17 is obviously too new for an old fart like me - I can't find any normal way to start setroubleshootd. Nothing in /etc/init.d.... mark -- selinux mailing list selinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/selinux