Thank you everyone for your wonderful suggestions, it's been a treat to read though and consider. I tried to condense and summarize the thread with some editorial prerogative with the hope of narrowing things down so we can get a few images to review. If you have artistic skills and would like to submit a contribution that would be wonderful. We'll also take a few take a couple of ideas to our graphic artist Diana Fong and see what she comes up with. Some of the suggestions, at least for me, did not intuitively invoke an association with protection (e.g. the bota flask). Other suggestions seemed too generic leaving one wondering without ambiguity what the image was trying to tell me, e.g. watching eyes, keys in locks, shields, etc. While some of these images do in fact invoke the notion of protection they've also become quite overloaded, e.g is the icon for my virus protection?, my key ring?, my authentication logon? etc. It has to somehow be distinctively unique so the user does not confuse it with something else. More to the point we also want to train people to associate the image with SELinux exclusively, I don't think we can do that with something like a key in a lock. Finally we should bear in mind the audience will be international. Let's do a straw poll vote: A) Star fish inscribed in a circle (pentagon) B) Golden key inscribed in a pentagon C) Mousetrap D) Gecko in a trench coat with the collar turned up E) Crossed swords Here is some of the contextual background: Richard Irving: how about a star fish, inside an unbroken circle ? starfish inside a pentagon.instead of an unbroken circle, just different enough from the original to be unique. It would then symbolize "isolation and containment".... aligning the stars legs to the corners of the pentagon, isolating each 5th of the pentagon from the other. there is the idea of a simple old fashioned "Flask" ... The flask (Bota) has an outline that conforms with many of the PHI curves, such as the nautilus, that trademark the Unix philosophy... (debian logo, the snail shell.... etc.) So does the pentacle, obviously. The bota flask, with the alternating black and white pentacle, on the side with the Key superimposed over the pentacle... gives one an excuse to make the key "Golden", as well.... (this is rather simple) I also like the black and white alternating pentacle on the edge of the seal, it is distinctive symbol. The Golden key about to be inserted into a lock, the keyhole is located in the center of an alternating pentacle, perhaps in the interior pentagon. With a golden or red capital "I", as the keyhole.... but the lock outline, describing the symbol PHI, using the I (the keyhole) as the center I of the phi symbol. (The outline of the lock forming the oblong O around the I) A subtle derivative might be a Gecko in a London Fog, with the collar turned up.... PPS: The crossed swords have my vote, if you don't like the starfish. Marc Schwartz A gold key, the shape of which is consistent with the key in the NSA logo being held onto by the eagle. Superimposed over the key is a red exclamation point or perhaps a red "I" information bubble icon. Nicolas Mailhot I propose an Horus eye since selinux checks the system against forbidden accesses. How about a comics-like mousetrap squeezing a bad guy (complete with mask/scarf/black fedora/whatever) ? James Morris What about something with a honeycomb structure, to suggest the compartmented nature of an SELinux system? Dan Walsh Another suggestion would be a shield, think Middle Ages. -- John Dennis <jdennis@xxxxxxxxxx> -- fedora-selinux-list mailing list fedora-selinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list