Is it possible to remove SELinux completely during FC5 installation, or even when installed? So far problems during YUM updates (It gives errors while installing policies then freezes Yum) have destroyed my system twice. (In both cases the system refuses to boot with an error "not syncing: Attempting to kill init!". Passing a parm of selinux=disabled to the kernel allowed a boot, but all my attempts to make this permanent then fail and I end up reinstalling and reconfiguring. I *cannot* complain that it is insecure, I can't even edit the files to disable it more permanently from the rescue function.. My problem is that for the systems I build it is overkill at the "BFG to kill a flea level"... I admit to being a newbie, I only started 10 years ago, *never* had anything so good at locking down my PC, it seems to be a first class option for DRM.. So, can I get rid of it completely, 1) I tried uninstalling everything with SELinux in the name, interesting effect try it one day when you have some time... 2) Tried the gui tool, (as a minimum I thought I'd turn it to the lowest level) it brings up a command prompt which freezes... 3) Tried editing the files to disable it at reboot, fails with "file is read only", chmod failed with "file is read only", chmod of the directory failed with "read only".. Is there any chance that, as a minimum it could give an error message like "SELinux configuration is corrupt, boot halted" as it took me a loooooong time to figure out what was wrong... And is there a documented process to handle a situation where the configuration is corrupted (accidentally or during an update) and the whole system is locked? Don't (Please don't) take this in the wrong way, I quite like FC5 apart from the effects of the new security, and I am sure there are people that need this, it's just for me the cure is proving much worse than the disease. Keiron Casey -- fedora-selinux-list mailing list fedora-selinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list