Testing FC5T3 the other week I wanted to find the arguments that gdm had used when it started Xnest, so I ran: ps ax | grep Xnest This didn't produce the expected response. On further investigation I found that several processes weren't being listed by 'ps ax' when run as an ordinary user but were when run as root. Running ps under strace showed that it was failing to open files in /proc. This was clearly an SELinux issue, as rebooting with enforcing=0 made the problem go away. I raised this in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183387 but the report has been closed as NOTABUG with the response: This is intended behaviour and part of SELinux with MCS policy. I'd like this to be reconsidered. I don't think that the targeted policy should break such long-standing Unix conventions as the behaviour of 'ps ax'. It's perfectly obvious to a user when they're running an X server, so having ps or top pretend that they're not doesn't seem very helpful. Ron -- fedora-selinux-list mailing list fedora-selinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list