Re: applying SELinux policy for httpd

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On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 09:12:24AM -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 14:10 +0000, Joe Orton wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 09:00:04AM -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 10:15 +0000, Joe Orton wrote:
> > > > I'd also like to mention again that the new FC4 policy of only applying 
> > > > SELinux policy if httpd is started from the init script is confusing the 
> > > > hell out of people.  It breaks the principle of least astonishment.  I'd 
> > > > much rather live with the fact that SELinux policy is *always* applied, 
> > > > and the fallout from that, than see this confusion of people hitting 
> > > > SELinux policy issues, get confused, restart httpd, see them disappear, 
> > > > etc.
> > > > 
> > > > I'd really like to see this change reverted for FC5.
> > > 
> > > Previously discussed in this thread:
> > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=112089638800001&r=1&w=2
> > 
> > The argument above still stands after the change to make apachectl 
> > behave like the init script.  People are still getting confused by the 
> > fact that Apache behaves differently if started via /usr/sbin/httpd.
> 
> That's fine, but they then need to know to use runcon or to enable
> httpd_tty_com if they want to run httpd -t and see the output on their
> tty.

It's a trade-off and this is the more acceptable option to me.  
Consistently different is better than inconsistently different. (but I 
would really also prefer that httpd_tty_comm was active by default to 
avoid that issue as well)

> Likewise for cgis, unless they are handled differently.

What's the problem for CGI scripts, I'm not sure what you're referring 
to here?

Regards,

joe

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